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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Pkiernan

I haven't seen or heard anything from Mary Lou, Slab Murphy and other good Republicans in ages.

What's going on?

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James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Sorry if you don't agree that a Garda being shot in the line of duty with a State funeral deserves more respect and more leeway than a criminal thug who masterminded terrorist operations.

There is no hypocrisy in that, there is distinction.

However, that wasn't the point I made, which you skilfully avoided, it was "the main point is the example being shown by political leaders".

As has been pointed out, there are many of you who have criticised and ridiculed Varadkar for a beer in the park and are giving hall passes to Mary-Lou on this occasion.

Hypocrisy.
The virus won't wear your excuses. 'It's okay covid the number 19, I like this funeral'

They were both groups not social distancing. End of.

Yeah_Right

The thing that really bugs me when the 2 funerals are compared, is that the same flag is draped on the coffins. The Gard absolutely deserved the honour but it disgusts me that a terrorist piece of **** like Storey would have the flag on his coffin. And I'm not even Irish.

christy c

armaghlad wrote: »

Does it really matter who’s body is in the coffin? If you’re outraged at one big funeral during lockdown then you can save some of that outrage for all big funerals

I doubt there's many outraged (not here anyway). It's a case of live by the sword, die by the sword. Don't have to look far for things SF and their fans have made big deals of for political gain. It's their turn to be on the receiving end so should just accept that.

armaghlad

Does it really matter who’s body is in the coffin? If you’re outraged at one big funeral during lockdown then you can save some of that outrage for all big funerals

TheCitizen

landofthetree wrote: »

The scum breaking the C19 rules as per usual.
https://www.rte.ie/amp/1150536/

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is a break of the rules, no doubt about it and they deserve criticism for it. But 'scum'?

Does that apply to anyone breaking the rules?

Any excuse for some on here to vent their spleen against SF

votecounts

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Talking of crime & criminals....
Quite a few knocking around at the funeral I would imagine. Nice to see Covid masks instead of balaclavas at a Republican funeral.

No Provo gun salute?

so no answer to the question, just the usual deflectionj

James Brown

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Talking of crime & criminals....
Quite a few knocking around at the funeral I would imagine. Nice to see Covid masks instead of balaclavas at a Republican funeral.

No Provo gun salute?

Where as Haughey the criminal gun runner got a state funeral. Go figure.
I would guess there was no salute because theres no active IRA?

FrancieBrady

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Talking of crime & criminals....
Quite a few knocking around at the funeral I would imagine. Nice to see Covid masks instead of balaclavas at a Republican funeral.

No Provo gun salute?

Legend has it that members of the first Dáil and a good few after, hid their identities too when the British were looking for them.

Mortelaro

maccored wrote: »

ah stop

https://www.irishpost.com/news/footage-leo-varadkar-meeting-friends-enjoying-sun-phoenix-park-lockdown-sparks-fury-online-185573

Leo was resident in phoenix Park for the lock down actually in a government appartment in farmleigh House...

Hamsterchops

votecounts wrote: »

What laws did anyone break going to this funeral, travel is unlimited at this stage or is it a case because its a republican funeral that its a crime,
.

Talking of crime & criminals....
Quite a few knocking around at the funeral I would imagine. Nice to see Covid masks instead of balaclavas at a Republican funeral.

No Provo gun salute?

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Except Varadkar was living in Farmleigh House at the time as other media reported - a mere couple of hundred metres away.

Defending Varadkar again. I hope he appreciates all the time and effort.

blanch152

maccored wrote: »

ah stop

https://www.irishpost.com/news/footage-leo-varadkar-meeting-friends-enjoying-sun-phoenix-park-lockdown-sparks-fury-online-185573

Except Varadkar was living in Farmleigh House at the time as other media reported - a mere couple of hundred metres away.

seamus

votecounts wrote: »

What laws did anyone break going to this funeral, travel is unlimited at this stage or is it a case because its a republican funeral that its a crime,
.

Here you go:
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-bereaved-about-funeral-arrangements

Funerals in NI at the moment are limited to 30 people, and only those who are members of the deceased's household or families.

Public funerals are not permitted.

Social distancing rules must be followed.

Gatherings after the burial are not permitted.

They broke literally all of the rules for this funeral.

Dempo1

Seems they are up north at the funeral, even ferris made it along with pearse Doherty.

McMurphy

Brilliant, we can just tell get all the cancelled events/holidays etc back in full swing now, and disregard the social distancing guidelines.

If the virus asks,(sssssh) we'll just tell it that it's a state funeral, or an event held for a public servant etc - it'll never know any better the big eegit.

People attending those can tear away with impunity apparently. It's only shinners breaking guidelines that pose a danger of the virus being spread.

Wonder what Tony Holohan will think of this most recent revelation.

votecounts

What laws did anyone break going to this funeral, travel is unlimited at this stage or is it a case because its a republican funeral that its a crime,
.

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

If you like that sort of thing.
Perfectly within her rights to complain, would be surprised if she didn't tbf.
SF bollixed up, simple as that.

They did agreed. Out of order. Foster has some neck though.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Except he wasn't telling everyone else to stay home at that stage. People were ok to be outside so long as they social distanced.

Working over time Blanch? Varadkar again?

Bishop of hope

Bowie wrote: »

I thought Foster had some neck.

If you like that sort of thing.
Perfectly within her rights to complain, would be surprised if she didn't tbf.
SF bollixed up, simple as that.

maccored

blanch152 wrote: »

Except he wasn't telling everyone else to stay home at that stage. People were ok to be outside so long as they social distanced.

ah stop

Under the government rules, groups of four are permitted to meet outside.

However, they are restricted from travelling further than 5km from their homes and groups must remain two metres apart from anyone they are not currently residing with.

Phoenix Park is roughly eight kilometres from Mr. Varadkar’s apartment on Carpenterstown Road in the Dublin West constituency.

https://www.irishpost.com/news/footage-leo-varadkar-meeting-friends-enjoying-sun-phoenix-park-lockdown-sparks-fury-online-185573

seamus

The comparison with Garda Horkan's funeral is pure stupidity.

The only member of Government who was there, was Flanagan. As Minister for Justice, he is in essence the employer of Garda Horkan, and Garda Horkan died performing his duties in the service of the state. Thus Flanagan's presence at the funeral was essential from a business perspective.

Varadkar and other officials didn't attend, they marked respect from a distance.

Storey was not a public servant. He was not in the employment of the state at the time of his death. He was just a man, who died. Thus, there is no comparison.

Also, I didn't see Flanagan posing for selfies at Garda Horkan's funeral. O'Neill was down in Dublin over the weekend, completely unnecessarily. This woman is a complete hypocrite and a danger to public health.

So are the rest of Sinn Fein.

But I suppose the Shinners here will defend O'Neill's blatant disregard for the pandemic with more whataboutery. Leo's cans, perhaps?

blanch152

maccored wrote: »

Varadkar had a beer in the park whilst telling everyone else to stay home. get the context right.

Except he wasn't telling everyone else to stay home at that stage. People were ok to be outside so long as they social distanced.

James Brown

ricero wrote: »

Faux outrage and a storm in a teacup. The blm marches and recent garda funeral had zero social distancing.

I thought Foster had some neck.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

According to Pearse Doherty this morning on Sarah McInerney they were invited to be there by the family.

As he also said, it is a matter for the PSNI to review now and they had liaised with them all the way through the organising.

Now you are blaming the Storey family!!!!!

While to rest of us, Bobby Storey may have been nothing more than an evil criminal terrorist, even I would acknowldge that to his family he must have been something different. Shifting the blame onto them for the actions of Mary-Lou, Pearse, Michelle, Gerry, Conor Murphy (the latter two not invited according to Matt Carthy) and the rest of the full turn-out of the SF leadership is a new low for blame-shifting.

And as I keep wondering, for such an "eminent person", why did nobody from our government or across the divide in Northern Ireland have anything decent to say about the man? We all know the answer.

ricero

Faux outrage and a storm in a teacup. The blm marches and recent garda funeral had zero social distancing.

maccored

Bishop of hope wrote: »

:D

well he wasnt. We DO know where 50 grand of that money ended up (the only money they found). It was in an RUC leisure centre - probably as payment.

Or do you believe the hilarious assumption that the IRA sneaked into a heavily guarded building and planted it?

James Brown

Mortelaro wrote: »

I most certainly did reference the BBC regarding the 10 people
I said later that drivetime were reporting that the BBC were reporting that
So now I'm dishonest for having posted the guidance in full?
And I did say where I got that the BBC were reporting the more than 10 people
Posts attached
Both of your statements are wrong on what I said and you've the cheek to mention honesty after that :eek:

Jaysis

Tony Holahans press conferences
Ignore them all you like but they're a perfect example of where you are wrong when you try to say zooms don't distort distances, they do

Or anyone that disagrees with you it seems to me or in this case provides an inconveniently irrefutable bit of zoom lens evidence on distance distortion

Can you prove the type of lens used? Is it not a bunch or those lens make people look closer than they are?

Bishop of hope

maccored wrote: »

but he wasnt in the ruc

maccored

blanch152 wrote: »

Sorry if you don't agree that a Garda being shot in the line of duty with a State funeral deserves more respect and more leeway than a criminal thug who masterminded terrorist operations.

There is no hypocrisy in that, there is distinction.

However, that wasn't the point I made, which you skilfully avoided, it was "the main point is the example being shown by political leaders".

As has been pointed out, there are many of you who have criticised and ridiculed Varadkar for a beer in the park and are giving hall passes to Mary-Lou on this occasion.

Varadkar had a beer in the park whilst telling everyone else to stay home. get the context right.

blanch152

Mortelaro wrote: »

The Garda Funeral was a State Funeral
I'm not sure the same protocols apply to those,especially to that of a Garda
The army pall bearers may have shared a barracks so as housemates may have been chosen for the no need to social distance

Bobby Storey is in the same category as any convicted IRA person with the good Friday agreement effectively pardoned
Being a Boss in the IRA and central to securing that agreements implementation, I don't think using the words criminal or similar is helpful
Facts are as I see it,1000's wanted to go to that Funeral and did outside
OK MLM and MoN shouldn't have been in the church and maybe others

That will be acceptable to Republicans but probably not most others who had funerals and still do under pandemic rules

Former criminal? Ex-terrorist? Pardoning doesn't take away the things he did.