Bishop of hope wrote: » You and others spent days and post after post about Leo and his park thing, his speech, criticising it and him to the last for his insensitivities. Christ on a bike lads where's your sensitivities now. Are any of you prepared to state that Mary Lou and Pearse and Michelle should have a bit of cop on and show leadership instead of what went on yesterday. Taking the crowd out of it, focusing on the politicians that were at least talking of being in govt, even Taoiseach at one stage, they were virtually sticking their fingers up at the people who suffered loss were ill and are afraid of the virus still let alone the ones who have died. They could have had a teleconference with the family to express their sorrows or turned up and visited them privately, there was plenty of time since his death. They could have taken out a full page ad in all the papers and on social media to highlight his career and uligise him and his achievements. I add to my list of stupid leaders now, in line with Trump and Johnson, the leadership of the Sinn féin party, Marylou MC Donald, Pearse Doherty and Michelle O Néill at least.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I did criticise them. They should have done better. Exactly as I have criticised Leo when appropriate...he should have done better too. 'Two fingers' thing. It wasn't SF taking the snaps and plastering over the media for political gain. These photos could have been used the way Garda Horkan's were, as 'photo's' of a funeral. They could also have been viewed the same way by people who are not hypocrites. We could all have rushed on to social media asking 'why was x, y, and z there, and 'look at those mourners, showing two fingers to others who have lost...but NOBODY did that.
nigeldaniel wrote: » Would they [SF] all have turned up if there were no cameras? Sf have a long track record of publicity stunts at every turn and opportunity.
Mortelaro wrote: » The Garda Funeral was a State Funeral I'm not sure the same protocols apply to those,especially to that of a Garda The army pall bearers may have shared a barracks so as housemates may have been chosen for the no need to social distance Bobby Storey is in the same category as any convicted IRA person with the good Friday agreement effectively pardoned Being a Boss in the IRA and central to securing that agreements implementation, I don't think using the words criminal or similar is helpful Facts are as I see it,1000's wanted to go to that Funeral and did outside OK MLM and MoN shouldn't have been in the church and maybe others That will be acceptable to Republicans but probably not most others who had funerals and still do under pandemic rules
Finty Lemon wrote: » Now that the orations are over and there is time to reflect, what do people think was Bobby Storey's greatest contribution to life in Ireland?
FrancieBrady wrote: » According to Pearse Doherty this morning on Sarah McInerney they were invited to be there by the family. As he also said, it is a matter for the PSNI to review now and they had liaised with them all the way through the organising.
Mortelaro wrote: » That doesn't hold water though because its all do as I say but I won't do what I say stuff with the legislators present The PSNI will probably tippy toe around this,pragmatism will win That still won't make it fair though
costacorta wrote: » His greatest contributions would have been masterminding the Northern Bank Raid
FrancieBrady wrote: » He clearly said, had it been Sunday then none of the SF people from the south would have been there. The restrictions are relaxing. It is nothing like it was even two weeks ago. But good to see the usual ****e will prevail...PSNI engaged and consulted in the organisation and have no issues...'ah that's just them being pragmatic and saving de peace process'.
McMurphy wrote: » The virus doesn't care blanch. So you are ridiculing one and hall passing the other. Brilliant. You sir are a hypocrite.
Mortelaro wrote: » You don't get the optics of this being bad or are Republicans excused from bad optics?
blanch152 wrote: » Sorry if you don't agree that a Garda being shot in the line of duty with a State funeral deserves more respect and more leeway than a criminal thug who masterminded terrorist operations. There is no hypocrisy in that, there is distinction. However, that wasn't the point I made, which you skilfully avoided, it was "the main point is the example being shown by political leaders". As has been pointed out, there are many of you who have criticised and ridiculed Varadkar for a beer in the park and are giving hall passes to Mary-Lou on this occasion.
maccored wrote: » but he wasnt in the ruc
Mortelaro wrote: » I most certainly did reference the BBC regarding the 10 people I said later that drivetime were reporting that the BBC were reporting that So now I'm dishonest for having posted the guidance in full? And I did say where I got that the BBC were reporting the more than 10 people Posts attached Both of your statements are wrong on what I said and you've the cheek to mention honesty after that :eek: Jaysis Tony Holahans press conferences Ignore them all you like but they're a perfect example of where you are wrong when you try to say zooms don't distort distances, they do Or anyone that disagrees with you it seems to me or in this case provides an inconveniently irrefutable bit of zoom lens evidence on distance distortion
Bishop of hope wrote: » :D
ricero wrote: » Faux outrage and a storm in a teacup. The blm marches and recent garda funeral had zero social distancing.
maccored wrote: » Varadkar had a beer in the park whilst telling everyone else to stay home. get the context right.
blanch152 wrote: » Except he wasn't telling everyone else to stay home at that stage. People were ok to be outside so long as they social distanced.
Under the government rules, groups of four are permitted to meet outside. However, they are restricted from travelling further than 5km from their homes and groups must remain two metres apart from anyone they are not currently residing with. Phoenix Park is roughly eight kilometres from Mr. Varadkar’s apartment on Carpenterstown Road in the Dublin West constituency.
Bowie wrote: » I thought Foster had some neck.
Bishop of hope wrote: » If you like that sort of thing. Perfectly within her rights to complain, would be surprised if she didn't tbf. SF bollixed up, simple as that.
