blanch152 wrote: » I was astonished to read this.https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sinn-fein-hierarchy-claims-it-was-not-aware-paddy-holohan-would-get-nomination-for-mayor-39319362.html Unbelievable stuff. Imagine nominating a racist homophobe for mayor?
Bowie wrote: » He's no business even thinking he can go for that roll. No Councilor O'Leary treatment though? Not too busy with covid to dismiss it? Not a throwaway remark? You've either an issue with holohan and an issue with O'Leary or neither IMO O'Leary was much worse.
Bonniedog wrote: » They are not pleased by the way things have turned out with the coalition deal. Had another election been called and they did as well as polls are saying, or even as well as January, and ran multiple candidates they would have been looking at up to 50 seats. That would have guaranteed them a place in government most likely. We may be grateful that did not come to pass despite the cost being having the wacky Greens in power. If virus remains under control and economy picks up shinners will be in bad place. Especially as the extremely poor quality of their TDs, councillors and senators will be exposed. Sure to be more scandals too. Would not be surprised if Big Bobby's death leads to more revelations regarding MI5/Branch control of the upper echelons of their militia.
zoobizoo wrote: » The outrage on the Friends Who Support Sinn Fein Facebook page makes for great reading......
zoobizoo wrote: » The outrage on the Friends Who Support Sinn Fein Facebook page makes for great reading...... "Yes we want another election we did not vot foer ye power grabing ***** But it all about the money in the endSold ye vote just liks judis done Enjoy while ye can yer days are numbered And ye will be history get up on you bike and toddle on Ye wount have a gaverment if the people dont support ye Not my goverment"
JohnnyFlash wrote: » I’m not so sure Holohan’s sort of views are actually that uncommon amongst some of SF’s new voter base. I’ll be polite and just say a lot of them don’t strike me as the most politically nuanced or knowledgeable of people.
Edgware wrote: » Welcome to realS.F. Don't be upset. You were not the first to be fooled by the propaganda aimed at the useful idiots
Topgear on Dave wrote: » I fear several of the SF twitterati may never vote green again. :pac:https://twitter.com/Revolution_IRL/status/1276624332198948864
Bonniedog wrote: » "Betrayed"!!! This from a party that ended 30 years of conflict by agreeing to run the 6 counties for the Brits, and spent ten years implementing Tory "ozterrity" while whinging about every trivial thing down here.
walshb wrote: » What’s this Paddy Holohan talk of South Dublin Msyor.. What are SF at... Who are they attracting to their ranks.....?!
smurgen wrote: » Useful idiots we might be now but efforts need to be made to reform the party into the progressive party it can be.i believe those that were looking to SF as an opportunity for change could greatly refine the party. Time will tell as from what I can see there's alot of people angry at this nomination now. Hopefully that scumbag is booted out and those that put him there reprimanded.
Speaking then, Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald launched disciplinary proceedings, saying Mr Holohan’s comments were “beyond offensive” and “vile”. “I actually find them upsetting,” she said.
Cal4567 wrote: » Actually the role and power of the devolved UK assemblies are limited, so SF's hands are tied to some extent, a point that seems to be comfortably forgotten both sometimes here and more importantly by ROI politicians. .
Bonniedog wrote: » Being part of any British administration in Ireland is totally against any notion of republicanism. Pity they didn't see the light before thousands including the hunger strikers and hundreds of Volunteers died for nothing.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Are you voicing support for the dissidents there?
Bonniedog wrote: » If the Provos couldnt beat the Brits, a gang of retro Provos are not going to! Armed struggle failed. You don't have to be a "dissident" to realise that the shinners have sold out on everything the republican movement stood for, and for which thousands died for no reason.
Bonniedog wrote: » Parity of esteem my ar$e. It was about bringing about a 32 county Republic. So it failed. Shinners have nothing that could not have been gotten had IRA surrendered in 1973 after Sunningdale instead of wasting another 21 years.
Bonniedog wrote: » So SF supported Sunningdale did it?
Sunningdale which contained everything that was in GFA by the way.
Or do you mean that republicans didnt want a 32 county republic and were only waiting for the chance to run the north for the Brits?
Bonniedog wrote: » The "unionist veto" in the GFA is exactly the same as it was in Sunningdale: That a majority in 6 counties have to vote for unity. This is getting tiresome as you clearly know nothing about any of this other than quick wiki visits that go over your head. As for your last comment..... where to start. Northern Ireland is not a homeland, nor have republicans ever aspired to running it. Sounds like you are the one that has more in common with Mallon and the SDLP.
The Unionist people have a long and strong tradition in Ireland. They have a rich Protestant heritage and a great pride in their tradition. They have pride in their service to the Crown, pride in their contribution to the United States, in their spirit of industry and achievement, in their work ethic and in their faith. Their special metttle is believed by many of them to be expressed in victories in battles long ago, battles regularly commemorated. But that pride is expressed in an archaic supremacism and in a desperate fear that they could not survive in accommodation with other traditions. They must live apart. Living apart may have been acceptable as long as their hold on power was underpinned by successive British goverments: but that is no longer the case. The fundamental change that has taken place as a result of the Anglo-Irish Agreement is a change that is deeply and fully understood by every Unionist. What it means is that their exclusive hold on power has gone and is not coming back. The power of veto on British policy which they have always had, and which goes to the heart of our problem here, has gone and is not coming back. The loss is uncomfortable for their leaders, for while they held that privileged position they never had to be politicians or exercise the art of politics, which is the art of representing one’s own view while treating others with fairness
Bonniedog wrote: » So SF supported Sunningdale did it?Sunningdale which contained everything that was in GFA by the way. Or do you mean that republicans didnt want a 32 county republic and were only waiting for the chance to run the north for the Brits?
maccored wrote: » an inaccurate quip invented by the SDLP. stop believing everything youre told without question. smacks of laziness and gullibility
Bonniedog wrote: » Consent clause in Sunningdale, Hillsborough and GFA are exactly the same: A united Ireland if a majority in 6 counties agree. You band wagon hoppers are an embarrassment.
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