Suckit wrote: » What's your point? That 18th best corruption is a good thing? Or that FFG being in power so long are much more capable of hiding it? The corruption is from the ground up with them, and just because the CPI (corruption index) points out that a load of African and South American countries are perceived to be more corrupt doesn't really mean a whole lot. It also only really covers FG in power, as the data only starts from 2012. That, and the fact the poster you quoted didn't mention how corrupt they were perceived to be by them.
Finty Lemon wrote: » Ireland ranked 18th best of 179 countries on the CPI (corruption index) in 2019 and has been top 20 for years. This high rating has been delivered by FFG in power all that time. Venezuela, that shining model so strongly supported by SF, ranked 173rd between North Korea and Afghanistan. Wake up.
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » THIS COUNTRY IS FULL OF SHEEP AND "I'M ALRIGHT JACKS", TOO AFRAID TO STAND UP TO THE FFG CARTEL AND THEIR CORRUPTION.
blanch152 wrote: » That piece in bold wasn't in your original definition, once again, you put something out there and you have to back away from it in minutes.....
FrancieBrady wrote: » As usual you are trying to go down the rabbithole. A 'partitionist' is somebody who wishes to keep something partitioned. Somebody who merely describes how that 'partition' functions is not a 'partitionist' necessarily. Although they can be. i.e. when, for instance, someone like you gets something right about how partition operates.
FrancieBrady wrote: » In Ireland, partitionism (Irish: críochdheighiltíocht) refers to views on Irish politics, culture, geography, or history that treat Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland as distinct. Partitionists may emphasise the perceived differences between the two jurisdictions and the people who live within them.
blanch152 wrote: » Partitionist n. a term of abuse for..... someone who is a lesser Irish person because they do not want to see an immediate reunification of the country regardless of the consequences someone who is a lesser Irish person because they do not support Sinn Fein policy on a united Ireland someone who is a lesser Irish person because they believe that an inclusive approach to a united Ireland requires the consent of the unionist population as well as the nationalist population someone who is a lesser Irish person because they believe that the cost of a united Ireland is too large a burden to place on the ordinary Irish person and that the hardship created is not worth it for symbolic reasons someone who is a lesser Irish person because they believe that identity is not tied to territory and are indifferent about a united Ireland because it is linked to tired old concepts of nationhood and possession of territory There are probably some other examples that can be given to refine the definition.
blanch152 wrote: » Oh dear, you need to read my post again. Based on your definition (which I don't accept), you are a partitionist. Either man up and withdraw your definition, or accept that you fall under it. Under my definition, the correct one, and the way it is used on here by you and others, I wouldn't call anyone a partitionist.
FrancieBrady wrote: » person who thinks 'partitionist' is a term of abuse...calls someone a partitionist. blanch...if it works for you, call me whatever you like, it has never stopped you before. btw accepting that the two jurisdictions are run differently is an acceptance that the two places are indeed 'partitioned'. It's what you want to do about that, that matters, in describing what you are.
blanch152 wrote: » Your definition includes any poster who says you can't analyse Sinn Fein's performance in government in the North because government there is different to the South. That person is quite clearly seeking to "emphasise the perceived differences between the two jurisdictions". You must be our first self-declared partitionist.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Whatever you want jh...if the description works for you...fire away.
jh79 wrote: » So pretty much everybody is a partitionist bar Dissident Republicans.
blackwhite wrote: » You mean like the SF cheerleaders who repeatedly tell anyone from the South that they aren’t qualified to comment on anything in the North because “you don’t know what it’s like” ?
Hamsterchops wrote: » But what is the definition of a partitionist? Somebody who accepts the internationally recognised boundary between the UK and the ROI, or somebody who doesn't? Please explain.
McMurphy wrote: » Going by your post history on various threads - a partitionist too.
rob316 wrote: » Waste of time this party is, fail to understand you can't make change unless you actually govern.
Yeah_Right wrote: » Yes I'm a rugby fan. And proud of it. Was that meant to be an insult? Never lived in D4 but I did live in D6 for about 6 years. Is that close enough? I do have a foreign accent but its never been mistaken for an American one. If not wanting to pay more taxes to fund the basket case that is NI and not wanting any part of their violent, sectarian BS makes me a Partionist, then yes I'm a Partionist.
jh79 wrote: » You also provided a link to rte and said that changed things. How did it change things?
jm08 wrote: » The problem of what Ireland is called goes back to the British Government refusing to acknowledge officially the name that Ireland choose to be called and deciding in the Ireland Act 1949 that the country formerly known as 'Eire' would now be referred to in British Law as 'Republic of Ireland' and not as 'Ireland' as named in Irish Law and Constitution. This problem persisted until recently. Stuff like the President would not be referred to or written officially as President of Ireland by the British Government. It was just bullying. The Irish Government were well up to replying in kind (for example, any extradition requests were returned on the technicality that the request was to a country that didn't exist! The EU recognising that the name of the country is 'Ireland' in the English language and "Eire'' in Irish language more or less made them come around to using the name that the people of Ireland had chosen for itself. Not sure if the Ireland Act 1949 was ever changed in the UK - probably not.
jm08 wrote: » You need to know where the country is coming from to know where it is going! You may have learned a lot about Ireland from history books - it would be interesting to know who wrote them?
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