Bishop of hope wrote: » No attempt at anything, just a casual observation. You've been an ardent SF poster as long as I'm here and from what I gather even while voting for Heather. Some leap of faith to be voting FG while defending SF. It could come around again for you in a future coalition deal. I hope its not Leo, Simon and Simon!
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Leo just said on Prime Time he never refused to meet Mary Lou about forming Govt, he wrote her a letter wanting to meet to tell her why he wouldn't go into govt with her and she never replied. He just can't help himself
FrancieBrady wrote: » Is this another attempt to dilute the lie Martin told and the lie Leo ignored?
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Thought you told us a while back you're in a great job
FrancieBrady wrote: » I never had the 'I'm alright Jack' philosophy JJ.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Thought you told us a while back you're in a great job and thsts why you have so much time to post on boards? Seems where you are in life doesn't sound too bad.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I am where I am in life because I foolishly believed the lies for so long. If coming to your senses and realising you are being lied to with auction politics makes me a Shinner in your eyes...so be it. I'm not...in future no party owns my vote. I think more and more of the Irish electorate feel the same way.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Before the Electionhttps://www.rte.ie/amp/1111937/ Any more lies?
blanch152 wrote: » How can you "expect" something from an unexpected event? Numbers were on their way down already - January had seen a temporary seasonal increase against trend that was always going to feed into a drop later in the year. December 2019 was the first sign of the numbers going down and the policies working. You are being taken in by the poverty industry.
Bowie wrote: » Here's mine for May of this year: Family homelessness quadrupled in space of six years as crisis in housing spiralled For the past year, the total number of homeless adults and children in the country has hovered around 10,000, more than three times the figure when the Department of Housing began standardising data collection in 2014.https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/family-homelessness-quadrupled-in-space-of-six-years-as-crisis-in-housing-spiralled-39202369.html
Family homelessness quadrupled in space of six years as crisis in housing spiralled For the past year, the total number of homeless adults and children in the country has hovered around 10,000, more than three times the figure when the Department of Housing began standardising data collection in 2014.https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/family-homelessness-quadrupled-in-space-of-six-years-as-crisis-in-housing-spiralled-39202369.html
Bowie wrote: » And because of Covid number 19, we've seen a stay: “We know that there are many individuals and families who were on the brink of homelessness who have been supported to remain in their home due to the moratorium on evictions for the duration of the crisis. Once the health crisis eases, we need to ensure that there are preventative supports in place to help these families and individuals stay out of homeless emergency accommodation.” Similarly, Focus Ireland chief executive Pat Dennigan said the fall in the number had been “widely predicted” not just because of the anti-eviction measures but also the number of Airbnb lettings coming back onto the rental market.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/number-of-homeless-people-drops-below-10-000-amid-covid-19-measures-1.4242217
“We know that there are many individuals and families who were on the brink of homelessness who have been supported to remain in their home due to the moratorium on evictions for the duration of the crisis. Once the health crisis eases, we need to ensure that there are preventative supports in place to help these families and individuals stay out of homeless emergency accommodation.” Similarly, Focus Ireland chief executive Pat Dennigan said the fall in the number had been “widely predicted” not just because of the anti-eviction measures but also the number of Airbnb lettings coming back onto the rental market.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/number-of-homeless-people-drops-below-10-000-amid-covid-19-measures-1.4242217
Bowie wrote: » ...I note you ignored the people welcoming the drop in numbers, despite it being Covid number 19 related.
Bishop of hope wrote: » I have bad news for you. THEY ALL LIE. It's a bit like finding out there's no santa. But there's a difference between lying and changing, and at times having to, your position and even policies, be it compromise to form a govt or economic circumstance. But they all lie and exaggerate their capabilities and their achievements.
Mortelaro wrote: » I think it's good to give your opinion Unfortunately theres none of us omnipotent ,so your opinion is going to be as vociferously disagreed with by people who think you're going on with nonsense Mind you I've said this before, no need to repeat what you said last time,once is enough,even though I've gone twice there now..
FrancieBrady wrote: » Ha ha...good one! It was pointed out to you several times by different people that you were just making excuses for a 'lie'. Digging a hole deeper is not winning an argument. To say you will never do something and then go and do it, as everyone knew you would, is to tell a lie...all day and all night long. 'Kindly stop....' is telling somebody to do something. You conduct your life as you see fit. If I want to point out foolishness I will, because if people don't, then the appalling vista of people calling lies something else and excusing will persist.
blanch152 wrote: » Brilliant post, but if you look carefully, it is the same two or three posters on every thread criticising FG and they end up as the top posters in threads like this. It is pretty sad to see people whose lives are so miserable that they have to spend their life criticising FG 24/7, or defending SF 24/7, or repeating the same memes and photos 24/7. 75% approval rating which means even some SF supporters think he’s doing a good job, which just shows you how sad they are.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Its actually hilarious!! Mary Lou: FF or FG back in government would be a disaster. Mary Lou: How dare FF and FG not talk to SF about forming a government. Hmmmmm.
Bishop of hope wrote: » You pay no heed to manifestos? Jesus Francie we knew THAT. Youre a true shinner, just as true FGrs and FFrs etc etc follow the same rationale. It's nice to see you finally admit it.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » "We will not go into Govt with FG" "Putting FF back in Govt would be like putting John Delaney back in charge of the FAI" Are these the 2 chancer's of parties we want, thankfully less than 50% of the country wants either.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Unless you have been fooling yourself...and it is my opinion that many many voters do. I don't care who people vote for as long as they engage their brains when they do. For instance, being aware of when they are being 'lied' to. Something you have difficulty with as we seen earlier in the thread. I know when I am being lied to because I engage my brain...for instance 'manifesto's'. I don't read them nor do I attach a single moments importance to them (from any party) because they have been devalued to the status of real estate brochures. If you don't like those opinions, scroll on do not try to censor them with the 'desist' comments.
Mortelaro wrote: » You wont find me calling any voters fools like you did I what now? Having explained clearly what a lie is and is not,a few pages back,you bowed out eventually,mumbling something about hoping I'm never on a jury...
Nobody is telling anybody to do anything
You can carry on disrespecting voters to your hearts content ,that just shows you up Refering to me and saying I pointing that out is censorship is simply false because you can give an opinion without being disrespectful Censorship would be removing the opinion or suggesting its removal
FrancieBrady wrote: » I'll expect you to wade in with the moralising the next time certain voters are called 'mouthbreathers' and worse, so.
You failed to convince on this several times and not just me. It's excusing a lie.[
Nobody is telling you not to read posts, you have been asked to stop trying to censor them, or silencing them.
Bowie wrote: » There was an expected downturn in numbers due to the Covid pandemic. Also a fact.
Mortelaro wrote: » 1.calling voters fools is disrespectful, your leader wouldn't do that
2.you cannot lie about the future as it hasn't happened yet
3.I won't be told not to read your posts just because you think I should have a different opinion of them than I do
Mortelaro wrote: » I've asked you to cease and desist slurring voters legitimate right not to vote SF is all by referring to them as participating in a power swap Swapping is consensual behaviour Getting an FF government for most FG voters and vice versa up to now has very much not been consensual
FrancieBrady wrote: » Minor parties end up taking the fall. They are manipulated by the more powerful who have no interest in doing coalition properly. A coalition should be executing a programme for government that gives way to the interests of all involved. They invariably don't here, we get flowery 'wishlists' that get forgotten about once the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed and the leader gets back from the Aras. That leads to a situation where the smaller party has to fight a rearguard action and ends up losing it's own support. How many times does it need to happen?
FrancieBrady wrote: » What are you on about?