Lillyfae wrote: » Where can this information be found? And why do you think they can’t seem to run their department with all these post grads and doctorates they have? Because I wikid the ministers and they were just that- teaching and arts graduates. At least the ministers get voted out and reshuffled every so often. Civil service personnel can be there for 100s of years.
Lillyfae wrote: » Should be no issues re health and safety for teachers then.
khalessi wrote: » Dearest Lilyfae we have tried to explain but to no avail if you want to know the ins and outs of hygiene in covid ireland come work in a school. No point in debating with someone with no understanding of how schools work but yet has all the answers.
jrosen wrote: » June 29th will see summer camps open. Unfortunately some camps have decided not to proceed this Summer and some places who host other camps will also not run. I believe the application and clearance process was incredibly slow and some clubs have simply opted out and are focusing on just getting themselves up and running for the new sports year. So parents who rely heavily on camps to get them through the long summer break could find themselves with no camp spot.
Lillyfae wrote: » Coming from a family of teachers I know a bit, I’m trying to understand better, hence my questions. The thing is, I don’t expect you to have all the answers as that’s not your job. That’s an expectation, or an authority, that you’ve assigned yourself. Not knowing everything about school or department management doesn’t mean that you aren’t doing your job, why do you take it so personally?? Apologies if my questions make you feel uncomfortable and invoke answers of “watch a TV show, it’s a bit like that”, that’s not my intention at all. I am trying to understand why the running of schools through the crisis and before is such a shambles, and none of that is yours and your colleagues responsibilities. No hot water, no toilet paper, no colouring pencils for gods sake! And when I ask who’s running the department, you turn to magically support them aswell? Khalessi it’s just contrarian at this stage.
khalessi wrote: » Lack of finanacial input for many years. The budget is ample enough and they dont seem interested in increasing it. Same with Health
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » It doesn't work though, even the parents with the best will cannot get their kids to engage in it long term. I know many parents who have just given up trying to even get a small amount of work done. They have given up weeks ago.
downthemiddle wrote: » I love your little anecdotes that only ever confirm what you already believe. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean you can generalise for everyone.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » The schools were all closed throughout Covid in Ireland so not going to be much use as an example of hygiene or anything really during that period. By the time schools are back the requirements will be much more minimal.
Lillyfae wrote: » Likewise. If everyone is doing so well, why do we need schools at all?
downthemiddle wrote: » I love your little anecdotes that only ever confirm what you already believe. I know many parents who are still actively engaged in the children's learning. Some of them are posting on behalf of their child, in the middle of the night, after long hospital shifts. They have continued to encourage their children and recognise the value of embedding perseverance in the children. I have seen the messages of gratitude they have sent to the schools acknowledging the efforts of teachers. They recognise that, while the situation is far from perfect, the schools in question have risen to the challenge. Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean you can generalise for everyone.
downthemiddle wrote: » A totally disingenuous editing of my post. Give yourself a gold star.
iamwhoiam wrote: » I know many , including my own family , struggling badly with home schooling . Both parents working at home with small babies and trying to deal with schooling etc Many caring for kids with special needs or caring for sick children with additional needs . It is most definitely not ideal for many who are juggling work , kids , schooling etc
Lillyfae wrote: » Apologies for this mods, please feel free to card me. Isn’t that your job? :P
downthemiddle wrote: » I don't give out gold stars. A swing and a miss. Coming from a family of teachers you can do better.
Lillyfae wrote: » Can do better was a regular in my day and I did just fine. Do me a favour and come up with something a bit more thoughtful to say to your students, encouragement goes much further than a cliché.
downthemiddle wrote: » Nobody is saying it is ideal. Everyone wants to see the schools reopen fully in September. There are huge strains on families in many different ways. I would be the first to admit that people have been challanged in previously unforeseen ways. Issues around wellbeing will be an issue when schools reopen. There will be a surge in child protection reports. However, it is to the schools society will look to pick up the pieces and they will rise to the challenge like the majority during the recent crisis.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Massive strains on families and the vast majority did their best for their kids I am sure I worry for kids who will have regressed and for kids who needed extra help A friends young lad has autism , he was doing so well and went from not communicating at all with the classmates to going to birthday parties and joining in. He has now regressed and won’t speak outside the home to anyone at all He is the tip of the iceberg I fear and I worry for so many children who will be affected by this disaster . So many rose workers frontline and others to the challenge and I am sure the vast majority of teachers will to
khalessi wrote: » Too much academic or not enough?Too easy or too hard?
khalessi wrote: » Oh dont worry the virus hasnt gone. It will be hibernating, as yourself and others have pointed out we have to learn to live with it. Going by todays staff meeting there will be a variety of protocols in place in September, ranging from hand hygiene up to localised lockdown where necessary.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » There are counties that haven't had any cases for a while now and outside of known clusters we've been told its virtually gone, the numbers are very low. Does Covid hibernate? I know some viruses can lie dormant (in an already infected person) but don't think that's the case with Covid.
Mrsmum wrote: » The thing that worries me is the different levels of interaction with their teacher different children are getting. At least if it was all the same it would be a level playing field. This is particularly acute when you are talking about senior cycle students. For instance on Newstalk this evening there was a discussion about where next year LC students stand and what is going to be done to help them catch up. There was a teacher on and he was saying they are not really much behind at all, that his own daughter doing LC honours Maths was doing great as she had been getting four online Maths classes per week from her teacher all along. I could have thrown the radio at that particular teacher because there he was stating for all the world as if that was the case everywhere. My son who is in the exact same position got one online Maths class per week. Some callers rang in to say the same thing. So for me, that's another area where all this pretence that all students are in the same boat is just utter rubbish. At least if they were back at school, there would be some sort of proper timetable.
downthemiddle wrote: » Unfortunately all children will never be in the same boat. What about the child who comes into school hungry every day? Or the child living in an abusive home? What about the child living in temporary accommodation? What about the child who has to work to put food on the table? Or the child whose parent has special needs? What about the child with special educational needs? Or the child whose parents won't send them to school? What about the child living with an addict? Children do not get to choose their parents. Schools give these children hope. These are the children who are suffering most during this lockdown. The work teachers do with some children literally saves lives.
