bettyoleary wrote: » They are being paid in full and will continue to be paid as they are still working
iamwhoiam wrote: » I was quoting you !!!’ I give up ! These are your words not mine “””””teachers who are following scientific advice. They wont feel proud like nurses that people are clapping. They arnt desperate because they are not being paid so they are looking at scientific advice and will adhere to it which is really what should be “””””
bettyoleary wrote: » What I was trying to say was you wont be able to encourage teachers to put themselves in danger by clapping for them. You wont be able to put a guilt trip on them. That wont work unfortunately. Teachers will follow scientific guidance. Why don't parents just start learning to teach on line. Whats the problem if they are so worried???
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » the powers that be will never tell us not to social distance but what they have said now is that we should social distance where possible.
Mr Harris also said that wearing a face mask is a behavioural change “we will have to get used to”. In the same way that people put their phone, keys and wallet into their bags, they should now put a face mask into a bag and into their pocket, he said, and for use on public transport and in indoor public areas such as shops, visiting the homes of those who are cocooning and visiting a residential care facility and in indoor areas where it is difficult to keep the 2 metres social distance.
Boggles wrote: » Have they? Have you a link to that? Pretty sure they have said where social distancing can be challenging wear a mask. Transport and enclosed areas like shops. I haven't seen advice from any official that says if you can't 'social distance, don't bother, you'll be grand'
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » "A specialist in infectious diseases has said the switch to individual responsibility now required of people by the accelerated reopening of the economy is wise and people "must get out there" and live again. Professor Sam McConkey said he is comfortable with the accelerated reopening of the economy as the virus is circulating at a "one in a million" level in the community".
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » They didn't say don't bother, they said try to social distance if possible. Try and if possible.https://www.gov.ie/en/speech/6e243-speech-of-an-taoiseach-leo-varadkar-announcing-a-revised-roadmap-for-reopening-irelands-society-and-business/
Boggles wrote: » Professor Sam McConkey: The reality is it could be November before schools are back in full
meeeeh wrote: » Yes he is saying we should open schools now. I agree with him.
As long as we have in Ireland very low rates of unexplained community transmission of Covid-19, rapid same-day results, testing and tracing, effective adherent self-isolation of first and perhaps second-degree contacts, and control of incoming Covid-19 at our borders, then this should be relatively safe for our children and their families.
Boggles wrote: » Could you highlight where they said that please?
meeeeh wrote: » Yes he is saying we should open schools now to be back as close as possible to normal in September. I agree with him.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Here's an idea, I've given you the link so why not go and read it yourself, it's there word for word. It was part of the Taoiseach speech last night, widely reported all over the media since then.
stay 2 meters away from others
Boggles wrote: » Oh sorry I thought you were talking about official public health policy not shoot from the hip Leo speeches. The speech where he put in a line from Mean Girls? The man is a complete and utter buffoon and the sooner he fúcks off the better.https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1274064553962360833
Boggles wrote: » For the record unlike some on here, I don't think he completely credible.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Of course they should, the question is why isnt the government prioritising our young people. Sure we can go get a haircut and head off to the other end of the country for a few pints from next week but we cannot open our education system, it's baffling.
bettyoleary wrote: » Hey Fringe, the virus hasn't gone. It is spreading massively in the Americas and in India and Africa. Did you not see that. Even in European countries ie Germany, there are massive spikes. It dosent matter a bit if we have no cases it is still rampant around the world, hence it can get back here. So, we have to but in place safety measures. The Govt, whilst the virus is still here have to abide by safety measures. Scientists , who I believe re the authority on this virus have advised we need to be safe. So we can open up but as soon as borders open we will get virus back. I'm just saying by October you need to make provisions to teach from home.
downthemiddle wrote: » What is baffling is that you think the education system is not reopening. Have you a link for that?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Just up at my local supermarket who have been quite stringent throughout but there's been a massive shift and you couldn't social distance in there now if you tried. The changes in people's behaviour was clear to see.Guess they were all listening to Leo yesterday
Taking personal responsibility means not entering a place if you see it is packed
History Queen wrote: » A lot of people seem to think the same for some reason. As of now schools are expected to reopen at the end of August as usual. Aside from (imo prudent) questions around new protocols or procedures that may be in place, I don't know why or where people are getting the idea that they aren't opening?
Boggles wrote: » It's quite simple. Because the overall narrative of the thread is to label all teachers feckless cowards. Reality gets in the way of that so it is dismissed and alternative facts presented. It wouldn't surprise me that half the people on the thread claiming to have kids actually don't.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Is it open now, is it opening next week??? News to me if that's the case, I thought they weren't opening for at least another 10 weeks.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Oh I see how this works. It's quite simple. Because the overall narrative of the thread is to label all parents feckless lazy idiots. Reality gets in the way of that so defensiveness and hysteria are presented. It wouldn't surprise me that half the people on the thread claiming to be teachers actually aren't. (But that's not true either, it's all about perspective!)
khalessi wrote: » So for the craic a bunch of random people claim to be teachers to get slagged off, called cowards lazy and other teacher bashing comments over the last few months on various threads, which then are then liked by those not brave enough or just sly enough not to say it directly so they dont get into trouble. Meanwhile the fake teachers spend time on multiple threads debating or speaking out against said comments. Sounds like a realistic scenario to me.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Did you not see what that was in response to? Suggest you go read it, as I said it's all about perspective.
khalessi wrote: » Ah yes perspective indeed
