TaurenDruid wrote: » I wonder why the two existing inbound cycle lanes in Fairview aren't enough and instead a new one is needed that would have involved cutting down dozens of 100+ year old trees... Thankfully even the northside cyclists said no to that one!
Hurrache wrote: » During construction of the Luas cross city, such was the extent of drivers breaking the bus lane restrictions that the NTA had to pay the overtime of an already overstretched Gardai to enforce it in order to allow construction work stick to schedule and the buses to run properly. In one month a traffic count registered 500 vehicles, daily, breaking the bus lane restrictions. Similar action had to be then taken to stop taxis abusing the restrictions on them, i.e. being ignored.https://twitter.com/DublinCommuters/status/1273365095360405506?s=19
Pinch Flat wrote: » Wait, was the thread about not cycling on footpaths? or have I missed something? Appreciate we went off topic a bit.https://goo.gl/maps/AcM1KxCgVQM9pgdv6
Stark wrote: » Only violation was that car half way down the track taking up the entire pedestrian side of the track in order to park in it :rolleyes:
"And at the end of the day the motorist above caused no harm, he was only going to hurt himself."
TaurenDruid wrote: » Lovely picture. Don't forget the other cycle lane which starts just to the left, cuts through the park, and comes out just before Newcomen Bridge. Practically deserted, most mornings.
TaurenDruid wrote: » No, it isn't, it's perfectly understandable.
TaurenDruid wrote: » 500 drivers a day using a particular bus lane? I'd well believe it. 1000 cyclists a day breaking a red light at the same bus lane? I guarantee it!
TaurenDruid wrote: » 1000 cyclists a day breaking a red light at the same bus lane? I guarantee it!
Effects wrote: » Similar amount of drivers breaking that red light in their cars as well, while breaking the speed limit. I guarantee it!
Hurrache wrote: » It's a survey from a couple of years ago, it contains the magic numbers that several here seem to be immune to, but I'll break it down quite simple for those. If you've any issues, take it up with the gardai who compiled the figures. 1,296 cars in Dublin recorded breaking a red 24 times the rate of cyclists, 54 during that period. (There were only 5 times the amount of motorists surveyed, so don't try argue the number is higher for cars because there's more) So only 12% of cyclist were observed breaking red lights Of the fatal collisions in the area, 42% involved pedestrians, none with cyclists 11% of fatal collisions involved cyclists And a later survey of the attitudes of drivers towards cyclists seems to have been based on the off the wall posters here 71% believe cyclists do not obey the rules of the road and regularly commit offenses on our roads. 81% said that cyclists regularly break traffic lights
Engineers from Trinity College Dublin have found that 60% of Dublin’s City Centre cyclists are guilty of running red lights. Just over a month ago a new set of penalties were introduced for cyclists, with the error of running a red light married to a €40 fine. In addition to the financial blow, the high proportion of cyclists not waiting for green to go indicates a serious safety issue for cyclists and other road users.The research also pinpointed specific junctions at which cyclists ignored the highway code, with one in particular seeing almost 98% of cyclists break a red light.
Hurrache wrote: » How can context in any way change the numbers surveyed versus the number of offenders observed by the Gardai?
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Why does anyone care if people break reds on a bike anyway? Once again, they're harmless, they don't need strict regulations the way cars do.
TaurenDruid wrote: » Oh, I dunno. Being able to compare the percentage of cyclists breaking a particular red light to the percentage of motorists breaking a particular red light.
Hurrache wrote: » Leave it there without the overall numbers surveyed, and cyclists vs other forms of transport?
TaurenDruid wrote: » Isn't that exactly what you did with the figures you posted yourself, earlier this morning?
Hurrache wrote: » It's right there in my post, what part of it can you not understand?
1,296 cars in Dublin recorded breaking a red 24 times the rate of cyclists, 54 during that period. (There were only 5 times the amount of motorists surveyed, so don't try argue the number is higher for cars because there's more) So only 12% of cyclist were observed breaking red lights Of the fatal collisions in the area, 42% involved pedestrians, none with cyclists 11% of fatal collisions involved cyclists And a later survey of the attitudes of drivers towards cyclists seems to have been based on the off the wall posters here 71% believe cyclists do not obey the rules of the road and regularly commit offenses on our roads. 81% said that cyclists regularly break traffic lights
TaurenDruid wrote: » No, it absolutely is not in your post. Your figures make absolute assumptions!
Spook_ie wrote: » Do let the people at TCD know if you disagree with their findings.
Spook_ie wrote: » Moving on to another parking spothttp://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/cameras-benburb-blackhall-luas-red-lights/ 18 months, 1300 offences by vehicles and cyclists, 32% (416) were cyclists, Guess what though, no FCPNs issued to the cyclists as they couldn't be identified from the red light cameras.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Another good reason for hi-vis for all cars - to make it easier to find them and rescue them from the sea.https://twitter.com/aaroadwash/status/1273340368369696770?s=19 Anyway, it's interesting to hear the results of the testing of autonomous cars in Galway isn't going well. There's no mention of a driver in the article, so it must be an autonomous vehicle, right? Is this one of Sean's 'unavoidable accidents'?
Hurrache wrote: » And a later survey of the attitudes of drivers towards cyclists seems to have been based on the off the wall posters here 71% believe cyclists do not obey the rules of the road and regularly commit offenses on our roads. 81% said that cyclists regularly break traffic lights
Hurrache wrote: » Either a failure of actual numbers and percentages supplied to you on a plate, or intentional trolling ignorance. The numbers of those breaking red lights were given. Like I said at the time, take it up with the Gardai. Everyone else can understand it. Making crap up again, as always. I never said anything about disagreeing with them. There was no numbers supplied as to how many that % was. So what you're saying is that the number of motorists breaking the red light is over double that of cyclists? Sure haven't we been saying this for days that the dumb argument that cyclists are the biggest offenders is exactly that, dumb.
07Lapierre wrote: » 1. Nobody has said cyclists never breat the ROTR. 2: these reports really do highlight how rampant ROTR breaking is among all road users. 3: be careful what you wish for. Do you really want every citizen to be required to display their ID details when out in public?
