byhookorbycrook wrote: » Could you list who “ they are all” are?
khalessi wrote: » well you could read the thread it has been covered many times But smaller classes hiring extra buildings, use of masks on kids and visors, social distancing, perspex on tables, taped out areas, bubbles of small groups of students, half class in, half weeks, one child per desk, 10 students per class for example lots of different approaches.
meeeeh wrote: » How do other countries manage? Most of them are back.
Deeec wrote: » Most schools are finishing up for the summer holidays next week and there are no plans in place for how they are going to reopen in September. Will school Principles be working over the summer to ensure all is in order to facilitate a September opening or will they return in the last few days in August and realize it is not possible to open schools due to lack of planning ahead. As a parent this makes me feel very anxious!
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » The notion that principals would ever, even in normal times, simply shut up shop at the end of the school year and just saunter back in September is actually hilarious!
meeeeh wrote: » As far as I know full classes are back in Slovenia.
kandr10 wrote: » Mostly by social distancing their already small classes.
khalessi wrote: » Could be but I am part of an international educatuonal fb group and that question was asked the other day and most people of the few hundred answers indicated back with restrictions. No one back fully without some form of restriction.
byhookorbycrook wrote: » There are no official guidelines, so once again , it falls to school staff . (“Bespoke,” me granny .) We are already planning , despite DES help and the notion that a school magically closes to the staff and the end of June and somehow reopens on the first day of term is, frankly , hilarious! School book rentals , moving rooms , handing over a class to the new teacher and a staff meeting happen every year before schools reopen . This year , there will be a lot more behind the scenes work than ever . People believe the media “ 3 months “ off spin .
meeeeh wrote: » Yes they enter the school through different doors, they stay in the same classroom. You move classrooms for different subjects there normally since 5th class in primary (9 years in total) and all of secondary. Classes are not allowed to mix but that doesn't mean they are not back full time.
khalessi wrote: » So as I said they have implemented changes that werent there previously. No school has reopened without health and safety paramount except Ireland as we will see
iamwhoiam wrote: » I just watched a Nationwide programme on Waterford University Hospital and its response to Covid . The staff stepped up and re trained and pulled together . The went out of their comfort zones ( ie orthopaedic surgeons training to look after ventilated patients ) I really hope that teachers are given the opportunity and the training to step up and re think and get schools ready Then who better to know their school, their pupils and their own abilities . Kids and parents are relying on them but they need to be given the opportunity to do that and use their skills as best they can
meeeeh wrote: » I'm not defending Department because they were dreadful but if you are looking for the gradual reopening others did schools should reopen in June. Ireland bought itself 3-4 extra months with not reopening as early as other countries (May probably would be too early in my opinion but June wouldbe ok). Department and schools have 2 months to come up with the plan but you are complaining about having to go back in September which is two and a half months away.
khalessi wrote: » Seriously cant wait to step have been sitting arse getting bedsores for last three months. I don think it lovely that the staff of said hospital stepped up and did their country proud in extra PPE and following training. I have had no training and kept my end of things going. When will parents step up and realise the farce so far schools have had to go through just to get hand sanitizer. These are your kids, children that you love and going by what is on here ye are quite happy to dump them in buildings not cleaned properly, some not fit for purpose pre covid because somebody said it was ok. Yes I get the fact that schools are regarded as babysitter Ive accepted that grudingly but come on. These are your children do you not want them to be safe?
khalessi wrote: » Yes I get the fact that schools are regarded as babysitter Ive accepted that grudingly but come on. These are your children do you not want them to be safe?
meeeeh wrote: » Our children will be fine. All the statistics show they are vby far least affected by Corona yet they seem to be disproportionately isolated from the rest of the world. Do we have to sacrifice their social development because some think reopening the schools would be too hard.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Why are you replying to me and referring to “ dumping children in schools “ ? I am not a parent of school going children but I do object to your put down of parents actually as I know most parents far from dump their children and run . You seem to be very critical of parents for some reason ? The Do you ever read anything positive or usefull from any of my posts ? Or just nit pick and find fault . ?
meeeeh wrote: Our children will be fine. All the statistics show they are vby far least affected by Corona yet they seem to be disproportionately isolated from the rest of the world. Do we have to sacrifice their social development because some think reopening the schools would be too hard.
khalessi wrote: » I responded to your comment on training and basically as I have said the comments on various threads boards including this one over the last few months, I totally understand where people are coming from re education and social deprevation as I have children and have seen it. But schools are also workplaces that legally have to be safe.
Mrsmum wrote: I think remote learning, which in lots of cases meant no learning, was something we could tolerate from March to May/June because well everyone was thrown in at the deep end and it was enough to just keep afloat considering all the individual difficulties people were dealing with. We're alot further down the road now & we know we have to live alongside this virus and that means workers who need to be physically present to do their jobs need to go back working and that our children need a proper full time education. Being very blunt about it, for all hospital staff, from doctors to cleaners, our starting point was patients must be cared for, for grocery stores & haulage companies our starting point was food (& toilet paper)needed to be available to buy, for gardai, that we needed them out there, for bus drivers, that transport was essential and so forth. And from that starting point, whatever was required to the best of our ability was provided for the employees. We even sent a call out for medical personnel to come home from abroad and converted hotels into hospitals. We had huge plane loads of PPE flown in from China. So now I think the time is nigh to be getting real about education. We need to be approaching the school issue that all students, except the vulnerable, need to go back full time in Sept. That this is as necessary as carers in nursing homes and food in the shops. Our children's education should not be way down the priority line. The Government and D of Ed need a kick up the backside. They need to stop tinkering around with this and start spending money doing whatever it takes. Because this remote/blended learning is codology and utterly failing our children.
iamwhoiam wrote: » My comment that hoped all teachers would be given opportunities to train and given help to manage ? That brought a reply that parents dump their kids ? An odd reply to my post that was hoping teachers could get training on how to deal with things ?
Deeec wrote: » I dont know if you are being serious or are being sarcastic! Hopefully you are being serious - I just simply don't know how much Principles work over the summer. During lockdown myself and several other parents emailed our childrens school principle to complain about the lack of engagement/help from the school. Sadly none of us received a reply!
Murple wrote: » Can I ask you what training you think should be given on ‘how to deal with things’?
