Insidious wrote: » I just watched the news from last night… I am so annoyed! After all the sacrifices… all the deaths.. not seeing family or friends for months in an effort to suppress Covid 19… The Government are just going to send all the children back to school in September. As far as I can tell it’s to hell with social distancing… If this is the case why did you not run the state exams.. What’s the difference.. Now education is more important than lives.. I honestly don’t know what to say. To all the healthcare workers and frontline staff in our hospitals this is shameful if it comes about.. They will drive us back in to the center of a new outbreak just as the Flu season starts.. This may be the start of a new Government. I won’t forget and If they follow through on this… I’ll see them in the next election with the memory of the consequences of their decisions. They made mistakes at the start with Cheltenham and visiting Nursing homes but they were learning in a difficult situation. This will be different. This will be a decision with the full knowledge of what happened before. Apologies.. I needed to have a rant.. Am I wrong? I guess I could be but damn I’m annoyed just now!
JL555 wrote: » When I saw the title of the thread, I first thought that you might be annoyed that it was being left so late. I myself, would be an advocate of kids going back sooner, maybe part time to see how distancing can work in a practical sense, if at all. I was really hoping to see some creative responses such as piloting some schools with distancing, and if all goes well then a full return. I have been really disappointed that the education of our kids has been put on hold for so long without any form of creative response either from the government or the teachers organisations themselves.
screamer wrote: » SARS totally different to covid19, it never got out of the traps to spread worldwide.... Those thinking normal will ever be normal again until we have either a vaccine or cure for covid19 are absolutely living in cloud cuckoo land and would be the very ones who’d scream blue murder if their little Johnny came home from school with covid. We need to be sensible about this. A second wave will come have no doubt, our approach may be different but thinking schools can just go back full steam ahead is wishful thinking
History Queen wrote: » As a teacher I can see between 150 and 250 students a day in my room for 40 mins at a time. I respectfully disagree that all we can hope for is masks. I want to see full cleaning procedures. My classroom gets bins emptied daily and hoovered every second day by school cleaners, I wipe down desks at the end of every day but I've only been doing the tops of the desks and with an "all purpose cleaner" i brought from home, I haven't been cleaning chairs/windows/doors etc. My classroom is a prefab so I (and my students) have no access to handwashing facilities when in my room. I would like to see a hand sanatiser at the door to my room (cheaper than installing a sink), and strict protocols around symptomatic students and teachers. I fully accept that 2m social distancing is unworkable if we want students in school full time. I'll accept not having that, if we have other robust procedures in place. Such as strict protocols for dealing with symptomatic staff and students, better handwashing and toileting facilities, reduced movement in the corridor, massively increased cleaning regime both in classrooms and in the common school areas etc. I'm not sure if it is possible to teach in a mask all day every day from a speaking and listening point of view, maybe those perspex shield things that you wear would work? Not sure if they're effective?
TheValeyard wrote: » Unfortunately many class rooms are specialised in second level and used for specific subjects. Also most groups by third year are broken into higher and ordinary classes for certain subjects, so very few students would spend a great deal of time with their base group. While senior level students are everywhere due to the options picked for their timetables.
average_runner wrote: » I agree certain things will need to be in place, obviously a secondary school your in. So maybe students dont switch class rooms, hand cleaning a must, temps taken, maybe all homework should on tablets or laptops.
average_runner wrote: » A bit of forward thinking by the school can get around alot of this. But they be playing sports etc. Teachers staff room need to go also as alot of teachers would be parents and could spread the virus from there.
TheValeyard wrote: » No it fcuking could not. You cannot have a group of uneducated first years in a science lab doing English, or 3rd year Science in the woodwork room, while 5th year chemistry is in a prefab. All mixed, not base units, need specialised rooms. No staff room, no photocopy machines, grand, I can email work for students to print off at home to bring in next day.
Sammy2012 wrote: » When I was in school close on 20yrs ago we used to have maths in the science lab fairly regularly!
TheValeyard wrote: » 20 years ago, maths was actually maths. A lot has changed. Conditions, rules, child safety. Course content.
Sammy2012 wrote: » Okay point taken! I dont know what's on the Maths curriculum now.
average_runner wrote: » Jaysus we did Maths in the science lab when in school. Maybe stagger the times classes come out, teachers Marshall the corridors when students moving along. Isolation rooms will have to be available also and then someone will have to Marshall the toilets, ie numbers allowed.
Ger Roe wrote: What about if you are under 50 and in good health, but living with elderly relatives or other people with increased risks?. It's not as simple as assessing the level of risk and worry by a cut-off age. Because of a failure to deal with the long running housing crisis, there are many people who themselves are low risk, but have to consider others that they are living with. It's all fine to be aware that catching Covid is a risk that we have to accept and manage, but a considerable amount of people can not confine that risk to just themselves and their own good health or young age.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Please link anywhere where this is said?
daheff wrote: » Received school weekly note last month from the principal saying they have no idea how they can possibly get back to school in September...a full 3.5 months away. No..we have some ideas..no open to your suggestions....not suggestions even offered for discussion. Simply admitting defeat even before starting to try. Heard similar stories from family friends and work colleagues about their schools.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » It's true though that we have no idea how school will look like when we hopefully get back in September. The dept and current minister have been found to be woefully out their depth when it comes to giving any form of guidance or guidelines to us. Leo and his 'bespoke solutions' is just new speak for let the schools try and figure it out and if and when things go tits up then schools can take the blame.
lulublue22 wrote: » I presume this is in relation to waiting for dep guidance. There is absolutely no point in telling parents how school might look like in 3.5 months when those responsible have not to date issued any guidelines re same. This is one of my pet peeves. Dep of Ed is responsible for how schooling will look in Sep not principals nor teachers - how schools respond will be based on guidelines from the dep. It boggles the mind how people don’t seem to grasp that basic fact. Ive no doubt the same poster would be back here in Sep bitching how the principal said x y and z and now the school wont do it. Bad school bad teachers yada yada .
iamwhoiam wrote: » It would be nice if the Principal had put it that way rather than “ we have no clue how we can do it “ A bit of positive communication for very anxious parents would go a long way
History Queen wrote: » I agree with you there. I have some sympathy for the principal though. We were promised specifics Friday and instead got waffle and soundbites. Very difficult and the principal is probably just exasperated and exhausted and fielding questions that they can't answer from teachers, parents and students for the last few weeks.
iamwhoiam wrote: » I understand that and its really not easy but then maybe say nothing at all instead of causing more anxiety Parents are also stressed and snxious
History Queen wrote: » Agreed. If we could get all parents and teachers demanding that the Dept cop on to themselves maybe something positive could come from this. I could stand to be corrected on this but there's no clear guidance on the running of July provision either, this scheme deals with some of our most vulnerable students, they cannot be left fend for themselves or worse, have schools unable to run the scheme becauseguidance wasn't provided.
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