frag420 wrote: » As already said, when the police arrived he was not blocking anyone, the car was parked in a parking spot. Here is the link again, 12th paragraph...https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/13/us/atlanta-police-shooting-wendys/index.html
frag420 wrote: » From that very link... "The eyewitness told CNN that by the time they arrived on the scene, Brooks' car was parked in a parking spot" I think we need to know who moved it? Was it the victim who moved it or Wendys staff, who?
BorneTobyWilde wrote: » yep, anything.
False Prophet wrote: » No, that's not what the police videos show. By the time the officers come to alcohol test him he is parked. But the previous police got him to move to that spot
BorneTobyWilde wrote: » Funny how they always go for a kill shot with a black man. Trained not to, but it's always head and chest shots. A bullet to the leg stops anyone.
punisher5112 wrote: » He moved it himself when he was awoken by the officer, he asked him to park it out of the way as he passed out in the drive thru lane.
punisher5112 wrote: » I actually find it astonishing that people even question what went down when all the videos are published online and anyone can see them, they were not doctored or messed with in any way. The male was under arrest, fought the two officers and got one of their tasers and used it against them, he was a direct threat and he needed to be stopped.All the comments stating ah sure they knew who he was and sure yeah let him run off..... Are these people mad? Are they living in the matrix or something? If this was how they wanted police to conduct themselves then that would mean you or I could walk up to a cop give them a few slaps or figs, taser them and take their equipment and run off with it..... Does this not actually compute as been the most stupidest form of thought ever?
frag420 wrote: » So they didn't do a sobriety test before getting him to move his car? He is suspected of being drink but allowed to drive? They should be suspended/fired for that alone as they put the public in danger by letting him drive. There was two sets of police officers and yet they still could not get the situation under control?
punisher5112 wrote: » I actually find it astonishing that people even question what went down when all the videos are published online and anyone can see them, they were not doctored or messed with in any way. The male was under arrest, fought the two officers and got one of their tasers and used it against them, he was a direct threat and he needed to be stopped. All the comments stating ah sure they knew who he was and sure yeah let him run off..... Are these people mad? Are they living in the matrix or something? If this was how they wanted police to conduct themselves then that would mean you or I could walk up to a cop give them a few slaps or figs, taser them and take their equipment and run off with it..... Does this not actually compute as been the most stupidest form of thought ever?
frag420 wrote: » So he was being compliant with the police then. Would it not make sense to do a sobriety test first to see if he was capable of driving it? If he is ok to drive and park it then why not drive it home?
RasTa wrote: » This type of death would only happen in America. I think that's what they are trying to change.
False Prophet wrote: » In ireland that's what I believe guards would do, advise you to park up so you would not be blocking or danger to anyone else. Plus no lives would have been in danger unless I guess he did a runner and tried to escape by driving away.
walshb wrote: » Are there anymore excuses and scenarios you’d like to present here? The man was a clear threat. He created this, caused it and he was responsible for it completely escalating...
no.8 wrote: » This is exactly why we must wait for facts and investigations to conclude or at least throw up provisional findings. None of us were there, none of us know the entire truth. I really wish i could have talked to the man to tell him not to run or do whatever he did afterwards but i can't, nor can you. Media is shared instantaneously these days but it's a far way away from giving the entire picture
lawrencesummers wrote: » Is that justified? Using lethal force against someone who has a non lethal weapon? Is shooting someone who has a baseball bat allowed?
punisher5112 wrote: » Compliant at 1st as he believed they would let him walk away but 1st thought I'd say was act cool, stay calm and I'll get my food and drive home. You or I have no idea what his though process was and the cops at that point wouldn't have known he was drunk.
sdanseo wrote: » This for me is justified based on the 2nd officers bodycam: (audio is graphic, but no visible injuries) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT01znN_PiU In the time leading up to 2:18, suspect scuffles and through the audio we hear a number of references to his grabbing a taser. At 2:19, he is tased himself, presumably by the cop who still has his taser. At 2:16, 7 seconds later, he's shot. Taser bursts last 5 seconds, so it's reasonable to put 2 and 2 together that he's on the ground, taser has stopped firing, and he points it at one of the cops. Game over.Absolutely. If you're an armed cop and someone has a taser on you they can very quickly use it to disable you and take your gun. Deadly force sadly is very justified in that case. Even if the second cop tasing him was an option, it would not be appropriate because if that fails he could also be disabled. In this case as well, it looks like the first taser shot has failed to totally subdue the suspect. The guy resisted arrest, fought with police, and ultimately endangered their lives which triggers the deadly force response. An element of darwinism has to apply there, however small. Cop needs his job back. And bodycams need stronger clips.
punisher5112 wrote: Do you want the police to give him a hug or something.
punisher5112 wrote: Wtf, the video shows it all.
punisher5112 wrote: He fought the police, he tased them and tried to numerous times.
frag420 wrote: » But he was passed out apparently, would someone who is not drunk pass out? He had no idea what the thought process of the cops were and taking into consideration recent events, do you blame him? Perhaps the cops should have acted cool, stayed calm and a cop would now have a job and a dead guy would be alive!
no.8 wrote: » Calm down lad. Please tread my earlier comment
sdanseo wrote: » Absolutely. If you're an armed cop and someone has a taser on you they can very quickly use it to disable you and take your gun. Deadly force sadly is very justified in that case. Even if the second cop tasing him was an option, it would not be appropriate because if that fails he could also be disabled. In this case as well, it looks like the first taser shot has failed to totally subdue the suspect. The guy resisted arrest, fought with police, and ultimately endangered their lives which triggers the deadly force response. An element of darwinism has to apply there, however small. Cop needs his job back. And bodycams need stronger clips.
sdanseo wrote: » This for me is justified based on the 2nd officers bodycam: (audio is graphic, but no visible injuries) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT01znN_PiU In the time leading up to 2:18, suspect scuffles and through the audio we hear a number of references to his grabbing a taser. At 2:19, he is tased himself, presumably by the cop who still has his taser. As he falls we can clearly see he has the taser in his hand. At 2:16, 7 seconds later, he's shot. Taser bursts last 5 seconds, so it's reasonable to put 2 and 2 together that he's on the ground, taser has stopped firing, and he points it at one of the cops. Game over. Absolutely. If you're an armed cop and someone has a taser on you they can very quickly use it to disable you and take your gun. Deadly force sadly is very justified in that case. Even if the second cop tasing him was an option, it would not be appropriate because if that fails he could also be disabled. In this case as well, it looks like the first taser shot has failed to totally subdue the suspect. The guy resisted arrest, fought with police, and ultimately endangered their lives which triggers the deadly force response. An element of darwinism has to apply there, however small. Cop needs his job back. And bodycams need stronger clips.
