frag420 wrote: » Did he have a hidden gun, did you see it? Did the police see it? How did they know he was violent and very drunk? Did they scan his car reg and check first? And if they did why not call for backup, that would be the sensible and reasonable thing to do eh?
washman3 wrote: » The guy would be alive today if he complied with the police. End of story.!!
weldoninhio wrote: » He wasn’t just running away though, was he? He turned back, aimed and fired a weapon at a cop. Suicide by cop.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » And what do they do in the meantime when attending calls or stops?
lawrencesummers wrote: » Do you think the Cop should get a medal for his bravery?
weldoninhio wrote: » More hug a thug shyte.
lawrencesummers wrote: » If that’s the case then answer this hypothetical question. If a cop tasers somebody and it is found to be unnecessary should they be charged with attempted murder?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » He ran, turned around and aimed a weapon at the officer, justified shooting imo
Danzy wrote: » That's how the Courts see it, probably because if a officer goes down the attacker then has a gun and had demonstrated a willingness to use violence. No, if the person tasered goes down, they're is nothing to suggest they'll be finished off. When you point a weapon, anything that looks like a gun at a policeman, add in being demented drunk and already proved to be violent, you will be shot and rightly so. Working class cops shouldn't have to die to indulge middle class activists often ideology driven views that have no evidence or experience to back.
lawrencesummers wrote: » And he would also be alive today if the cops hadn’t used lethal force to handle a situation that didn’t need it.
Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: » How do you know he was a thug? He was being civil and co-operative. Then they tried to cuff him, and he panicked... (we don't know why - there could be many reasons). But then the officers were guilty of panicking even more so than the drunk man! Trigger happy and nervous cops is not a good thing when you are carrying a loaded gun. This man should not be dead - and in most other countries he wouldn't be. He'd be in front of a judge, explaining himself and probably get a slap on the wrist. I'm quite certain, if those cops had asked him to co-operate and let them cuff him... he would have calmly complied. But he was drunk and he panicked. He's a black guy getting arrested by two white cops. They should have given him time for his mind register what was about to happen - especially considering he was drunk. He didn't deserve to die for the mistakes he made! They shot him 3 times while he was running away. (Yes, he had a taser, but it's a non-lethal weapon with only one round). Shooting 3 rounds from a gun is not a reasonable or responsible reaction!
weldoninhio wrote: » An armed Gardai shot himself in the leg the other day. Wonder if he’ll claim police brutality.
frag420 wrote: » A non lethal weapon according to the US police force... Why use lethal force against non lethal force?
riffmongous wrote: » Not anymore thank god, maybe now some some other person just asleep in a car won't end up being shot
Discodog wrote: » In any civilised country the following driver or the drive through staff would of simply woke him up probably with a toot of their horn. One has to wonder if the staff would of even called the police if he was white. If police can't understand that, if you are threatened you back away, then they shouldn't be in the police. The rule is always to deescalate, calm the situation & talk. But American is totally different. But I doubt that many of the hang em, shoot em & flog em brigade on Boards will agree.
weldoninhio wrote: » He turned, aimed and shot a non lethal and obsolete weapon (as far as we know) at a cop. 3 shots is far from fully justifiable. It’s not Hollywood.
lawrencesummers wrote: » ....a non lethal weapon.
Get Real wrote: » Quite easy to say though. We "know" that now. We've seen the footage. At nighttime, in the dark, if someone stops, turns and points an object at you, it's completely different.
weldoninhio wrote: » He turned, aimed and shot at a cop. 3 shots is fully justifiable. It’s not Hollywood.
Danzy wrote: » Why didn't the violent drunk inform them that he was proceeding to draw and point a non lethal weapon at them and they should trust him now that he wasn't going to kill them.Why didnt the cops inform him they were going to put cuffs on before they did? They knew he had no respect for others, driving a pick up so drunk he couldn't stay awake.He was dropped off at the drive thru, he had not driven there drunk. Why would those working class guys put their life on line for your Suburbia driven policing fantasies?Eh thats their job, its not a secret in police academy that the job is dangerous. They talk all the time about howe noble they are to put their life on the line to protect and serve the community
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Holy smokes. I wasnt expecting that comment from you. Respect
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Get shot in the face with one and come back to me, in the hands if trained people they are non lethal. In the hands if a drunk man running and aiming recklessly they can be lethal.
