robinph wrote: » Ignoring the sweating and vomiting as being routes of transmission unless people are getting up to exceedingly weird things we are left with breathing in close proximity to others for a significant duration. There are multiple ways of minimising any risk during the token handing out and scanning process. But doing away with scanning and timing does nothing to eliminate the socialising aspect at the start and finish. So why are people suggesting doing away with the timing as a solution? I can't see any gain from doing that as far as reducing the standing around at the start and finish aspects. Getting rid of timing doesn't eliminate the standing around chatting at the start, and it also doesn't eliminate the standing around chatting at the finish. Unless you are suggesting people getting chased from the park with a cattle prod as soon as they cross the line?
Burkie1203 wrote: » socialising before or after is optional. If your on token or scanning duty, you are stuck to the one spot, this isnt rocket science to figure out
robinph wrote: » Not sure what your point is, but it doesn't take more than a couple of fractions of a second to hand out a token and only a second longer to scan it. Unless you belive that when parkrun restarts every single parkrunner is infectious and every one of them will be coughing directly at the token scanners I don't anticipate there being much of a problem. If the volunteer is that nervous regarding infection then they are unlikely to have left their own front door since March and unlikely to do so for a long time after parkrun restarts.
Murph_D wrote: » Hence distancing is still a thing, and so is limiting the size of gatherings.
robinph wrote: » There is no more interaction between parkrunners and token givers and scanner volunteers than between someone getting on a bus and the driver. Nobody is getting in a panic about buying their bus tickets, it's the sitting in the bus for 20 minutes in close proximity to a bunch of other people which is the risk, meanwhile the bus driver is in their own separate little box away from everyone else and with the window open to get some fresh air in.
robinph wrote: » The volunteer can wear a mask if needed or get one of the clear face shields for them. What has surprised me through this though is people coming up with all sorts of fantastical ways to do wave starts, no timing, pre booking your parkrun space etc and thinking that would enable parkrun to return. Mostly on various Facebook groups rather than here. But missing the most important, and most risky under current conditions, bit of a parkrun is not the 5km run or the time you get at the end... Its all about the hanging around chatting beforehand and the coffee and cake afterwards. For all the talk about the wonderful parkrun ethos that nobody has ever explained but that gets pulled out every other week on the Facebook groups with whatever that weeks incident is, they seem to be very unaware of the social point of parkrun.
Rossi7 wrote: » Pretty sure I've read that 30 odd London Bus drivers have died from the virus so far, so is the cult going to accept 30 token scanners losing their lives
average_runner wrote: » Also.sweat droplets arena concern during the race but u be very unlucky
average_runner wrote: » Do you know where the bus drivers got it from? Havent heard of many in Ireland
Seannew1 wrote: » If people were to hazard a guess, when do ye think we will be back up and running again with parkrun?? My guess would be August. I'd be happy to volunteer for the first while to get it going again and hopefully people after a while would feel safe and comfortable to return. That's provided our re-opening goes according to plan and cases go down.
average_runner wrote: » Sweat droplets landing on another runner is a way to pass the virus, its a low risk in my opinion but if you have people coughing and spitting(all very common) when racing, it will increase the risk.
robinph wrote: » Is it? Where did you get that information from? It's an infection affecting your lungs, how would your sweat become infectious?
average_runner wrote: » But when people sweat, usually your nose will have gunk etc, this can transfer with sweat. When people sweat they wipe their face, droplets from mouth or nose can come off that. People also breath heavy if racing and droplets can come from the mouth due to that. Its a low risk as I said. To be honest I am not against racing, was training with a group last week
robinph wrote: » But that is still not sweat that is dangerous, just that people who sweat might be breathing out infectious droplets. I'd doubt if anyones sweat is becoming an aerosol and floating around in the atmosphere for any duration as sweat droplets will be falling to the ground pretty quickly, especially if they have snot in them as well. Other than the "study" from a month or so ago claiming that running 30 meters behind people was somehow dangerous there isn't anything to suggest that people are likely to catch Covid19 from running with someone else. If you are infectious and wipe your sweaty brow and then cough on your hand and then shake hands with someone who then licks their hand and wipes their eyes, frankly they deserve pretty much everything they get.
ger664 wrote: » We currently have ~ 800 active cases in Ireland from a population of nearly 5 Million. 300 or so are in Hospital the other 500 should be in isolation. Of that 500 how many are actually park runners. As regards asymptomatic case. Probably only 100-200 cases in the country if it was any bigger the daily new cases would not be its current rate < 20/day IMO Currently The risk of getting Covid-19 at a parkrun is about the same as getting lyms diese at a parkrun
TaurenDruid wrote: » Something non-covid related! Got the mail there about the new apricot shirts. Great! Clicked on the link. STG£33 for a running tee? Eh, no. No way I can justify nearly €40 on a running shirt! I mean, I've spent a lot less on race entries, that came with a shirt included! What's the thinking here? Keep them exclusive, or something? Seems a bit mad. I'd be doing the opposite - selling them around €20, but also having the milestone shirts available to buy - you get your first free, but can re-buy if you want (to replace one after wear and tear, or moving up or down a size).
GalwayGrrrrrl wrote: » Given the price people pay for football shirts, GAA shirts etc they are fairly reasonably priced. It’s the only thing in parkrun that you have to pay for, and I’m happy to support them.
average_runner wrote: Also.sweat droplets arena concern during the race but u be very unlucky
py wrote: » I'd say the thinking is that you get a 5Km timed run for free every week across a number of countries. Bills have to be paid etc. It's a good quality shirt, I'll probably pick up one of the apricot vests soon enough.
