DelaneyIn wrote: » Here is an Irish lad in limerick getting battered for not supporting black lives matter.https://www.facebook.com/518620081515968/posts/3466382670073013/?vh=e&d=n Horrible stuff.
Blaze420 wrote: » I’m simply stating a fact, you on the other hand are acting like all of these ****ing snowflakes I see on blm protest pages - jumping up and down in your own indignation shouting everyone down who doesn’t bow to BLM as a racist and bigot. This might get me banned from the thread but sincerely from me to you and all of your ilk - go **** yourself.
joe40 wrote: » Who is doing the shouting now!! It is strange to see people up in arms about been shouted down or made support something. No one has told me who to support, I don't see where this nonsense is coming from. You're entitled to your opinion, as are others.
Bowie wrote: » Just to note: I see a lot of the same folk doing their civic duty 'concerned' we might be getting too sympathetic on the wrong side of this race issue are the same folk helped us out before we got too overly sympathetic for the #metoo movement. Your insecurity racism and bigotry, passed as reasoned debate, disgusts me TBH. Let groups who feel nobody is listening have five minutes ffs.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I see his frustration. Simply not following or supporting a movement such as metoo or BLM is enough to be called a mysogynist or a racist. It's silly and it's inaccurate.
joe40 wrote: » And if I give even a little support to those things I'm a lefty, snowflake, sjw type, whatever. The name-calling comes from all sides. There are without doubt dicks jumping on the bandwagon, looking for attention, but they don't represent everyone.
Gruffalox wrote: » Did you read Kilboor's excellent post a few pages back? I presume you do not use any product that has exploited any person in any deprived, enslaved situation globally. I presume you have marched on behalf of every person in hell from Yeminis to Yazidis and if not I will presume this swell of protest is a fashion statement, a populist social media fueled imaginary uprising, the result of the deep emotionalism fused with shallow intellectualism that is the bane of modern times.
joe40 wrote: » Okay I see, I can't have an opinion then so since I live and work and rear a family, because how could I possibly do all the the things you expect. Your post is just nonsense. Unless one lives an unattainable ideal they're hypocrites. I tried to be reasonable and find a middle ground and this this the kind of sh*the I get. Pseudointellectual babble.
Gruffalox wrote: » The point is simple. One man's fate has been elevated in the media - cynically, in my opinion- to create dreadful chaos and race baiting, frankly. And instead of reading around the issues, for example Outlaw Pete quoted a WSJ article that examines research on the matter, people have flocked in a highly emotional manner to a supposed cause celebre. Here in Ireland thousands of miles away some people have taken to the streets during pandemic restrictions when so many other injustices more locally could have motivated them at other times. It feels like a fashionable cause - it is a pity the randomly chosen but now lionised victim was a person who violently victimised others. It all seems frenzied and unexamined. And closer to the matter mobs have destroyed and looted black owned businesses, and other lives have been lost in the chaos. I don't see anything worth stirring up all this sh1t for.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Jim lives in a poor area with few shops and job opportunities. Jim burnt down some buildings and looted those few shops. In a few months time when all of this is forgotten the area Jim lives in will be poorer, have less shops and fewer job opportunities. Jim screwed himself over
joe40 wrote: » Same thing happened in Dublin 1916 and we made quite a fuss about it a few years ago.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » "Same thing " So much of a stretch the band snapped, flew back and hit him in the eye
joe40 wrote: » I'm not getting into a discussion with you about Floyd, or the BLM movement, you have your opinion and I'm not going to change that, and likewise you won't change mine. .
joe40 wrote: » This is not about one person. It never was. That one person was simply a tipping point because it was filmed. Whether you agree with the protest or not is up to you but it is simply factually incorrect to say it is about one person, and you know that. I'm not getting into a discussion with you about Floyd, or the BLM movement, you have your opinion and I'm not going to change that, and likewise you won't change mine. I will admit the situation is complex without easy solutions, and does go beyond race, but it is much bigger than the death of one man. He is not simply a "cause celebre" although the manner of his death at the hands of people paid to protect and serve was appalling.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I see where you went wrong... You must have accidentally logged into a DISCUSSION forum on a specific thread DISCUSSING the very topic you don't want to get into a discussion about. Easy mistake
AllForIt wrote: I thought the #alllivesmatter came about because of the deaths as a result of the looting/protesting/riots. Which would make the OP look silly.
iamstop wrote: » 3a. If you've read all this and understand it and still use the 'alllivesmatter' hashtag then shame on you. You are a terrible human.
Brussels Sprout wrote: » "All lives matter" and "White Lives matter" are not racist per se. It is self evident that both are true statements. However, it just so happens that a lot of racists like throwing them out as a cudgel against the BLM statement. The BLM advocates are looking for equality and parity with how white people are treated by police. They're not asking for anything to be removed from white people but the "All Live Matter"/"White Lives Matter" brigade behave like they are going to lose some rights themselves.
GSBellew wrote: » Disagree completely, you want equality it's all lives matter, pick one over the other and all you are doing is pushing an agenda.
