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Chartered Engineer 2016

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So, anyone else looking to submit their Chartership Report this year for Engineers Ireland? I've drafted my report and essays and am awaiting feedback on them from my supporters.

Does anyone have any advice for what to do/what not to do when seeking Chartership?

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Facthunt

Has anyone had their interview yet?

2011

I was a paid up member of Engineers Ireland for well over a decade and had always planned to get chartered with them. However, I found that there was little benefit to being a member, any courses of interest that they ran were massively over priced with poor discounts for members. I became disillusioned and left even though my employer (large consultancy) paid the subscription each year.

Having attended a number of excellent IET CPD events in Dublin pre-covid I decided to go through the CEng process with them instead. I have been working as a lead E & I engineer for a number of years and decided that the IET were far more relevant to my discipline. For example, the IET produce a number of important standards including the 18the Edition BS7671 (UK wiring regulations). This post is not intended as a "dig" at anyone that is chartered with EI or EI itself, just my own view.

Anyway, I started the process last January and am very relieved to say that I received an email today stating "Further to your application for CEng Professional Registration, the final decision has been received and we are pleased to advise you that your application has been successful."

Delighted 😀

[Deleted User]

Congrats!!

gucci

Update: IM IN THE CLUB 😀

Interview was in November, I found it a bit trickier than I expected. I dont think they questioned me too hard, I think I just expected to be eased into the questioning rather than:

The first question went real deep on stress calcs and challenging why I chose to work from first principles and my selection of methodology, rather than design to a code (Pressure vessel design)

Anyway I recovered after a bit of steady breathing and sips of water and I guess I must have explained my reasoning well enough to satisfy them I wasnt a complete spoofer!

I did find the process for applying through Continous Learning Assessment quite a chore at times, but there was great support from IMechE in the form of online tutorials/events to discuss the procedures and really focus your application. In the end it was quite nice to have a body of work written up to show some of the best work I have done in my career and it does feel like a worthwhile endevour. I also changed job in the middle of my application, so it was great to have everything very fresh in my mind, I felt alot more interview ready than if I hadnt had spent a few months working on my application.

gucci

Bit of a johnny come lately to this thread, but I have just submitted my CEng Application to IMechE (I am based in UK)
I went via the Continuous Learning Assessment route, to detail my learnings as my Mechanical Engineering Degree is a Level 7. Its quite a long process, but I do feel its been quite a beneficial one so far. I should have an interview in Aug/September and fingers crossed that will be a success.

Van Doozy

I was awarded CEng by Engineers Ireland recently. I found this thread quite helpful as I was doing my application. I too had heard that if you make it to the interview stage, you are sorted, but having read through this thread, I saw that this is not necessarily the case! So that definitely made me work that little bit harder to give myself the best shot of achieving CEng first go. The thoughts of having to do that all again!!

There's loads of good advice in the thread - here's my tuppence worth for anyone interested:

1. Start on your application early and give yourself loads of time to refine it. I started at the previous deadline (January), for submission by the following one (July). This gives an hour or so a week for you to work on your application, which you will need if you want to do it properly and not have a last minute rush.

2. All the information you need is in the regulations and the guidance notes so I would strongly advise you read them carefully and align your application with them, in order to work most efficiently and clearly show how you meet each of the five competencies.

3. CPD is important for any engineer, but especially CEng. Have yours fully up to date on the website and be familiar with what you wrote. They asked me about mine, which I wasn't expecting. Everything in it was true and accurate and I luckily knew the answers off the top of my head as I had recently compiled it for 2020 so I wasnt caught out by it.

4. I know everyone says this but it's true: Be very very familiar with your written application. It's their template for the interview.

The interview is grand. Mine was like a polite, formal conversation. My suggestions for this:

1. In advance, go through your written application and "ask yourself" to elaborate on every claim you have made about how you meet a competence. Can you comfortably do this from memory? Practice talking about them aloud.
2. I did mine on zoom and I had the guidance notes open in a folder beside me. I had hand-written some examples on the guidance notes to prompt me if I was asked about a particular competence. That worked really well, for me.
3. Your interviewers are volunteers, be sure and thank them for their time at the end.

godtabh

poteen wrote: »

Do you sign up or do you have to be asked ?

A mass email went recently. I did the webinar about it. Got an email asking for volunteeers for an upcoming session but as I haven’t had any training etc I declined. Was hoping to get a bit more info before doing the first one.

shesty

You sign up, or offer your services if needed, as far as I know.
Haven't done it myself, but a family member has and a couple of colleagues.

poteen

godtabh wrote: »

Any one signed up to be an assessor?

Do you sign up or do you have to be asked ?

godtabh

Any one signed up to be an assessor?

Outkast_IRE

roadmaster wrote: »

Sorry for going slightly of topic but with brexit is Chartership with the CIOB & CABE still recognised in Ireland/EU

Highly likely they are , but most have released a press release on their website to confirm it, if not check in with their membership team.

I am hoping to go for CIBSE chartership later this year and their agreement stands for mutual recognition.

roadmaster

Sorry for going slightly of topic but with brexit is Chartership with the CIOB & CABE still recognised in Ireland/EU

Bobjims

Haulie86 wrote: »

I am thinking about starting my chartership but I have been based in construction (site engineering) and not design or consultancy. Is it possible for me still to get chartered?

Yes, absolutely possible. It's not nessessary to have been in design or consultancy to achieve chartership.

Haulie86

I am thinking about starting my chartership but I have been based in construction (site engineering) and not design or consultancy. Is it possible for me still to get chartered?

Billiam5099

Had my interview last Tuesday. The video conference aspect of it wasn't any sort of hindrance at all. The team was very friendly and polite. The questions were not delving into the intricacies of calculations, but more on what xchancellor said: how you dealt with situations. How did you design H&S into X project? What lead you to Y decision? And why were you confident that that would work? Are you confident that it will go smoothly? Why? How have you planned, budgeted, lead, managed? Lots of detail on leadership and how you develop your team. Asking how I innovated with particular roles. My experience doesn't include being the manager for large teams but more leading one or two, so I had to develop how I show leadership in bringing design/contractor teams around to new concepts or technologies that may be new or unfamiliar to them.

In general, you're pushed until you hit your limit, before they would move on. Don't BS, be honest. Develop for them experience that's comparable if you haven't an exact match of an answer for them.

The membership board are set to meet mid this week (17/6/20 I think), and results will be issued in 3-4 working days thereafter.

xchancellor

Haven't received result yet.

I would say it depends very much on your reviewers to be honest. But would suggest they are more general questions on projects/situations and how you dealt/managed them. Also report content feeds in to this e.g. is your report technical/managerial etc

Probably also depends on your discipline. Have a general response about sustainability/environment and also health & safety.

If you are good at this type of thing (which I am not) you can probably react to questions and lead them in your own direction to get across a certain bit of experience you want to highlight. If you are talking they aren't asking/having to think up awkward questions!

Billiam5099

Thanks for the reply xchancellor. Have you received a result yet?

I'm reasonably experienced at remote working & presenting so hopefully that aspect won't be too challenging.

In terms of interview content, to what extent were the questions technical? Were you quizzed on engineering theory, or was it more to do with how you handled your projects?

xchancellor

I have just been through the online process for my 2nd attempt at Phase 2.

I found it quite seemless and the tech worked well though I'm very used to remote working, screen sharing etc. There was some issues with connection dropping in and out on the reviewers end but didn't really put me off tbh.

Compared to the face to face interview it was like night and day, however my first experience was not a good one so the bar was set very low. So I don't see this format as a dis-advantage at all.

Best advice i can give, although easier said than done, is to relax and take it in your stride and be confident.

Billiam5099

Has anyone been through the remote chartership interview process in the last few weeks in these socially distanced times? Were there any particular difficulties with the medium which I should be aware of?

Going for my first chartership interview next week, wish me luck!

madmac187

Hi all, the firm I work for are covering my IEI membership. I havent been a member since 2014 so here I am. Anyway, once they pay for it Im thinking of trying to go for chartership. I was planning on doing another masters, but think it would be better served to get chartered if I am to try to get a job council job. (Not getting any younger). So what is the process to all of this. I have been abroad working in Australia, Papa New Guinea, UK and home, so I have been around and have approx 11 years experience. I know I have to be a member for 3 months, but I was a member prior to 2014 for a long time so Im hoping that will cover it. I have a fair bit of CPD done on my own bat also. In relation to the chartered supporting members, do I look for them or are they assigned to me?

bmacsuibhne

I have a couple of question of the Competencies. I am an structural engineer with all of my experience in the USA and I am trying to fill out the Chartered Application. How close did you get to the 500 word limit in each of the competencies? Also how different is Competency 1 and 2? I feel that some of the Guidance examples are very similar.

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poteen wrote: »

Im for interview this week. Just wondering how technical the interview gets. Will they ask for some specifics on figures, calcs etc.

Also, for the competencies, how do you approach it. Do you very pointedly say this us how i have achieved competency for this and this is how for that etc or is it the interviewer that leads it?

Also what do you say for your opening statement?

For my opening statement, I had brought in a folder and I included an update on work I had done since I submitted the report, with particular focus on the competencies for all my experience. Plan your statement accordingly I would say.

I don't remember the interview being technical. My report had stated sections which covered each competency, so I mentioned my experience around the competencies instead of saying you had completed competency 1.2 here. But whatever works!

Best of luck. Read back through your report and endure you know it, and how you've met the competencies in your submission.

poteen

Im for interview this week. Just wondering how technical the interview gets. Will they ask for some specifics on figures, calcs etc.

Also, for the competencies, how do you approach it. Do you very pointedly say this us how i have achieved competency for this and this is how for that etc or is it the interviewer that leads it?

Also what do you say for your opening statement?

godtabh

Has there been a slow down in applications? Grads from 4 years ago could probably be counted on one hand!

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cherrytaz wrote: »

Hey all,

Just a quick update on this, I just received notification that I achieved Chartered status. I re-applied 18 months after the above initial rejection. So for anyone in the same boat, don't get too down about it, use the recommended time to hone in on your skills and re-apply. Great feeling to finally get it :D

Congrats! Same happened to me.

cherrytaz

cherrytaz wrote: »

I'm in the same boat. I just found out that I also did not pass the interview. I'm extremely disappointed and trying to fathom where it went wrong. I felt the interview went well and similar to yourself feel like I have worked extremely hard since graduating and demonstrated progress throughout that meets and exceeds the competencies. I will await feedback but it is very demoralizing.

Hey all,

Just a quick update on this, I just received notification that I achieved Chartered status. I re-applied 18 months after the above initial rejection. So for anyone in the same boat, don't get too down about it, use the recommended time to hone in on your skills and re-apply. Great feeling to finally get it

xchancellor

Just got my report acceptance email this morning. No call for interview yet...'Interview rounds within a 6-month period'. From chatting to others in the office I reckon October/November for Phase 2 interviews.

ddubs

Has anyone been called to interview for the June deadline yet? How long does it typically take?

selephonic

Simona1986 wrote: »

As far as I'm aware if you have an accredited level 8 you don't need an accredited masters, any masters will do?

No, you still need an accredited masters to fulfil the automatic phase 1 requirement.

There is an accredited part time construction project management masters in Waterford IT.

Alkers

As far as I'm aware if you have an accredited level 8 you don't need an accredited masters, any masters will do?