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A lockdown time trial idea - Fishing for interest

Lazare

I've had an idea for a TT/Challenge for a while, thought recently that it's a good time for it with nothing much else going on. Posted it in the random questions thread and a couple of fine folk said they liked it, so I figured I'd start a thread and throw it out there.

The basic idea is simple, a progression time trial. You've to run each kilometre faster than the previous one. As soon as you run an equal or slower km, game over.

So you run 11 progressively faster kms and the 12th one is 3 secs slower, your race is over and your score is 11km.

We could have a leaderboard table which also includes moving time. So someone who runs 8 progressive kms in 43 minutes ranks higher than someone who runs 8km in 44mins. Or maybe a range field showing your first and last km, the tighter that range the higher you rank.

Could have it as an ongoing thing, run it whenever you want and update the table, not narrowed down to a specific date.

Would be a cracking workout, while also a bit of craic.

I personally think metric works better for this, but open to correction.

Also wide open to tweaks and ideas.

What do people think?

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skyblue46

Pherekydes wrote: »

I think I could manage 10 minutes. :pac:

I'd say you could go further if you took that 25kg bag of sand off your back

Swashbuckler

skyblue46 wrote:

I'd say you could go further if you took that 25kg bag of sand off your back

I had visions of a prediction of finishing the ten mins in 13 mins.

Lazare

skyblue46 wrote: »

I think the 10 mins, 10k and 10 mile on the one day would be brilliant and simple if we forget about the progression element. 3 different length TTs, J &M at the helm and away we go.

Yeah, the prog is better suited to being an ongoing thing.

I'll set something up in the next few days.

IvoryTower

So youd be "competing" against the people who choose the same category?

shotgunmcos

Lazare wrote: »

Yeah, the prog is better suited to being an ongoing thing.

I'll set something up in the next few days.

If you want to set up the Strava group I can take care of the Thread and background excel. I'm not as used to Strava admin but I could figure it out.

Either way, happy to support and drive it on.

10m, 10k, 10mins

Swashbuckler

shotgunmcos wrote:

10m, 10k, 10mins

10min is interesting. Crack at sub 10 3k maybe......

shotgunmcos

Swashbuckler wrote: »

10min is interesting. Crack at sub 10 3k maybe......

Yep, perhaps tasty targets for the fast track types that may otherwise not be interested in 10k or 10m.
3k for some (Sub 5:15 milers

), 2 miles for others (sub 5 milers).

Lazare

shotgunmcos wrote: »

If you want to set up the Strava group I can take care of the Thread and background excel. I'm not as used to Strava admin but I could figure it out.

Either way, happy to support and drive it on.

10m, 10k, 10mins

Ah I meant I'll set up the Prog challenge thread in the next few days.

Happy to help out with TT#3 too though. I can set up a Strava group.

You wanna start the TT thread itself?

shotgunmcos

Lazare wrote: »

Ah I meant I'll set up the Prog challenge thread in the next few days.

Happy to help out with TT#3 too though I can set up a Strava group.

You wanna start the TT thread itself?

Ok confused. Was your progression idea a different thread than the TT? If so don't want to a step on your toes, just said I'll help.

If it was a different thing then yeah, I'll kick off TT#3 Thread in a similar fashion to the lads for consistency. 10min, 10k, 10m. Although the last TT was put to a vote. Should I hold a poll again or do ye think the 3 options are good to go? If so I'll set it up and Lazare or Healy1835* can set up the Strava thread.

*said he would help but busy with the spotlight this week

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Yes, I get that. 10 seconds I can handle, I think. It's anything more complicated than that I'm struggling with.

Oh, and you should be disqualified. For showing up the rest of us. :P

Even 10 secs is hard to do. I tried a few weeks back over 15 miles. It was a very tough LR

Planned drops every mile: 10 secs
Actual drops (using LL Pace): 13,8,12,8,14,7,11,9,10,9,11,11,11,11,9

https://www.strava.com/activities/3290984327/pace-analysis

OOnegative

I think your 10x3 idea is a great idea for the next TT M, leave the progressive element out and make it plain all out racing once more.

Swashbuckler

OOnegative wrote:

I think your 10x3 idea is a great idea for the next TT M, leave the progressive element out and make it plain all out racing once more.

#metoo

skyblue46

Swashbuckler wrote: »

#metoo

Me3

Lazare

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Ok confused. Was your progression idea a different thread than the TT? If so don't want to a step on your toes, just said I'll help.

If it was a different thing then yeah, I'll kick off TT#3 Thread in a similar fashion to the lads for consistency. 10min, 10k, 10m. Although the last TT was put to a vote. Should I hold a poll again or do ye think the 3 options are good to go? If so I'll set it up and Lazare or Healy1835* can set up the Strava thread.

*said he would help but busy with the spotlight this week

Ha, yeah it got a bit confusing a few posts in, I blame that B fella.

Yep, the progression idea was always (in my mind) meant to be a different thing to the TT series. I waited until after the 1m to post about it as I didn't want to take people's attention away from that.

I love your idea for the next TT though.

'TTTTT'
'The Three Tenners Time Trial'

IvoryTower

So it's really 3 time trials in one day, pick whatever you want?

Everyone will pick 10k or 10m cause theres nobody has a 10min pb to beat!

Laineyfrecks

Yay...another TT

Swashbuckler

IvoryTower wrote:

Everyone will pick 10k or 10m cause theres nobody has a 10min pb to beat!

I'd seriously consider the 10min to target 3k.

KSU

IvoryTower wrote: »

Everyone will pick 10k or 10m cause theres nobody has a 10min pb to beat!

Actually a fairly good way to gauge true Vo2 max pace though (closer to 8 min but would give a fairly good estimate)

IvoryTower

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I'd seriously consider the 10min to target 3k.

Why not just make it 3k so?

Swashbuckler

IvoryTower wrote:

Why not just make it 3k so?

Two reasons,

3k,10k,10M doesn't have the same ring to it!

And we have three volunteers. I'm more than happy to go with their choice.

shotgunmcos

Right cause it's the 3rd edition boards TT hee hee

Example
1) TT TT TT
2) 10 10 10
3) min km mi

Select one option from rows 1, 2 and 3. Then set a target. Easy peasy. I'll set up the thread and turn that into a little table this week. Date? Independence Day 4th July?

shotgunmcos

IvoryTower wrote: »

Why not just make it 3k so?

2 miles for you!

IvoryTower

shotgunmcos wrote: »

2 miles for you!

sub 40 10k or a hard long run sounds more fun, I'm sure my coach will love this

Annie get your Run

IvoryTower wrote: »

So it's really 3 time trials in one day, pick whatever you want?

Everyone will pick 10k or 10m cause theres nobody has a 10min pb to beat!

Noooo! I'm picking 10 mins, why would I go through 50+ mins of pain when I can get it over with in 10 mins

:D. Actually I'd probably use the 10 min one to go all out for 1 mile and see my mile training improvements and then blow up for the last 2 mins!!!

Hannibal_Smith

IvoryTower wrote: »

Everyone will pick 10k or 10m cause theres nobody has a 10min pb to beat!

Well I wouldnt say nobody

healy1835

shotgunmcos wrote: »

If so I'll set it up and Lazare or Healy1835* can set up the Strava thread.

*said he would help but busy with the spotlight this week

He's back. That spotlight thread is intense

just saw the Strava group... Things have moved on I see.