Blueshoe wrote: » White America as a group oppressed black people in all walks of life hence the civil rights movement.
Billy Mays wrote: » It's just a coincidence that the only president to have his birthplace questioned was the black guy with the funny name He never did reveal the things his investigators couldn't believe they were finding out about Obama either iirc
Blueshoe wrote: » America was a different place back then. Whites and blacks didn't have equal rights. Are you going to deny that? Are you saying that the civil rights movement didn't happen or it was for no reason? You need to read the advert. Here's a snippet: "Many new York families -White , Black, Hispanic and Asian have had to give up the pleasure of a leisurely stroll in the park at dusk" Yeah so racist. The advert is an attack on the police and the break down of law and order. Read it and point out the racist parts. If Obama was born overseas he isn't eligible to be US president. That's the law. So racist. Those members stood up to him and were silly enough to get involved in a public spat. Again if you don't like it somewhere why not leave. Again facts about most of the above are easily researched. This is ridiculous
Settling doesn't mean innocence, but it indicates incompetence on several levels.... What about the other people who were brutalized that night, in addition to the jogger?
Blueshoe wrote: » Sh1thole countries isn't racist. That's a stretch. "We should have more people from places like Norway". Yeah let's get more white people in. Not racist at all. Central park 5 ad : have you actually read the text of the ad. I just did. Perhaps you should tooHe didn't explicitly call for their execution in the ad but he called for the death penalty to be introduced in NY following that case. Coincidence I'm sure. He has never apologised for his harsh comments or admitted he was wrong about them.What a surprise. Birtherism: a statement questioning Obama's birthplace. How is this racist? He's accusing Obama of lying about his place of birth.Would he have accused a white man of lying about his place of birth? You know the answer to that African American tenants: 1960s America. A different world and you know it. Also it's privately owned property.So what if it was a different world? That doesn't excuse it. And not everyone was racist then like you claim. Mexican rapists: How about a report from doctors without borders? And reposted on by NBC. Read the factshttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/report-paints-harrowing-picture-central-america-migration-n758446 "They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists." Sure it's okay to brand an entire population of Hispanics as criminals and rapists Pandering to white supremacists: how about a fact check since some of you are so fond of twitter's recent ones.https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/Steve Bannon. KKK endorsement. Say no more. Tweeting about foreign born Congress members: Born overseas yet complaining about the United States that has been so good to them. Very easy if you aren't happy then leave. This isn't racist. It's common sense. Would you stay somewhere you weren't happy?5% of the members of Congress were born overseas. Are you seriously trying to say that they can't be critical of the country because of they weren't born there? It's their job and their responsibility to their constituents to question everything. And most of them got where they are through hard work and not because the United States was so good to them. I don't remember anyone giving AOC a leg up when she was waiting tables and pulling pints. /QUOTE] You didn't provide any facts like you claim. Are you a racist or a racist sympathiser? It would explain your defending the indefensible.
Blueshoe wrote: » Here's an example of a current real world situation happening right now. <Snip> protesting the police murder of a black citizen who was suffocated by the knee of a police officer. <Snip> See the sh1thole that is America
Blueshoe wrote: » The second group are firing guns into the air
Blueshoe wrote: » The reality is that the first group of protestors didn't attack anyone or damage property and dispersed peacefully afterwards while the second group are burning down buildings, throwing stones, firing guns into the air and looting liquor and electronic stores.
moon2 wrote: » Yup. Edit: I take issue with this comparison in the first place. You're ignoring the years and decades of history where black Americans have been killed with little to no recourse. It's a false equivalency.
kowloon wrote: » Can the people looting and burning down shops be considered protestors? Are they an entirely separate group of opportunists just taking advantage of the situation?
FrostyJack wrote: » Half way through David Frums new book Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy, his last book was great and so far this is too. He was just on Sam Harris podcast talking about it if you don't want to buy it. The book goes through in good detail the events under Trump and explains how they are so dangerous. Any sane Republican, Libertarian or someone on the fence would be instantly be jumping ship from Trump if they believed the content. He pointed out the danger we talked about last week, that when Trump is removed he will be worse than ever, riling up conspiracies and hurling from the ditches undermining whoever takes over next, leading to another disaster. Possibly in-sighting violence and polarising the country even more. He will also in the future be held up by some like Mao, revisionists will hark back to the golden age of Trump, so even after his death he will still be a cancer on American society/politics.
Blueshoe wrote: » Here's an example of a current real world situation happening right now. Trump supporters wearing combat gear and carrying weapons in an open carry state are allowed to protest without police intervention. People are on the streets protesting the police murder of a black citizen who was suffocated by the knee of a police officer. The police have fired tear gas into the crowds and baton charged them. People are saying the gun toting protestors were allowed to continue because they are white while the other group are being dispersed by force by the police because they are black. They are saying this is Trump's America etc. The reality is that the first group of protestors didn't attack anyone or damage property and dispersed peacefully afterwards while the second group are burning down buildings, throwing stones, firing guns into the air and looting liquor and electronic stores. See the difference. See the brainwashing. See the bias. See the level of entitlement. See the sh1thole that is America
Thepoet85 wrote: » Someone argued with me a few weeks ago that Trump was merely flailing his way from one disaster to another, and that none of it was orchestrated by anyone to distract from the relevant issues at hand. Well here we are, on the day that 100,000 Americans have died from Corona Virus and all that Boards and the world are talking about is Trump's arguement with Twitter. He's definitely not the mastermind behind it, but by Christ it's working. Nothing over the last 5 pages about the 100k dead, only a spat with Twitter.... Incredible.
PropJoe10 wrote: Unfortunately this has been a pattern throughout his entire presidency. He is a master at deflection and unfortunately the press falls for it on each occasion. It's an incredibly damaging presidency.
Thepoet85 wrote: » I agree. I said as much here not two weeks ago and it was shrugged off, as a man of his ineptitude wouldn't be capable of such orchestration.
Blueshoe wrote: » Most people make the comparison as cases per million or deaths per million since countries have vastly different populations. Compare different countries by this
fullstop wrote: » Going back to bang this drum again now?
Blueshoe wrote: Most people make the comparison as cases per million or deaths per million since countries have vastly different populations. Then you have to look at the infrastructure of the compared countries. How many planes in the air, how densely populated are it's cities etc.
Blueshoe wrote: » It's very relevant and important. Vital actually. If you want a true comparison.
hetuzozaho wrote: » Did anyone watch this executive order signing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_4AKRvEPMg It's hard to believe that these are adults in charge of America. :P And he lied again about the ballots during this :pac: Does he honestly believe what he is saying? When I think he is lying, is he just mistaken? And then does he believe his tweets are true so then actually believes that Twitter and the world are against him when they call him out? Can he be that ignorant? It would be frustrating to misunderstand things and for people to be critiquing it, but you still think you are right as you don't understand the nuance of the critique. It's starting to remind me of the film "Being There" starring Peter Sellers.
fullstop wrote: » You were already corrected on this completely irrelevant comparison yesterday. Maybe go back, have another read and you might understand it this time.
Blueshoe wrote: Q How can you compare countries if one has a hundred times the population?
Blueshoe wrote: A Cases per million. Deaths per million.
Blueshoe wrote: » Q How can you compare countries if one has a hundred times the population? A Cases per million. Deaths per million.
Thepoet85 wrote: » Why are you trying to deflect from the fact that 100k have died from this thing IN America. Quality of roads and the amount of planes in the air are irrelevant. If you can't answer the hard questions move on, you're wasting everyone's time.
fullstop wrote: » Q How can you compare countries if one doesn’t bother counting all deaths? A...?