average_runner wrote: » If a second wave comes we probably lockdown but that be the end of the lockdowns. As a society we will have to move on. More than 1 more lockdown and there be no money for Public Sector, just massive paycuts.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » What sport? I'm involved in GAA and we have been told to not expect any games for anyone under 16 and below. The SFAI have also said nothing until September at the earliest for training so I'm not quite sure where you are getting that viewpoint?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Teams can train together in a week's time if they want to. By end of June sports events can start back up behind closed doors. In July competitions and matches can resume, with limited spectators. Come August Gyms etc are going to be reopened and close contact sports like boxing are back too. So there will be plenty of kids playing organised sports by September. Plenty of them out playing soccer etc together already anyway albeit in smaller numbers. It will come down to what coaches and instructors are comfortable with but they have the go ahead to start from the 8th of June.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » As I said all us teachers need and want is for the dept to do their job and provide workable and achievable guidelines for what is to happen in a scenario. They have been woefully inept so far. Schools just left to their own devices to try and find a way to muddle through. No leadership from them whatsoever. We need these inorder to be able to plan for September at a local level. No point releasing them a few days before we are meant to be back which most of expect will probably happen. The Dept have form for dropping important information at the very last minute and then expecting schools to be able to implement straight away. The actual coalface is a hell of a lot different.
Benimar wrote: » Both the FAI and GAA have said there will be no training of any description before July 20th. The grounds aren't even to be opened. I'm not sure on the GAA (maybe someone involved would know?) but the Schoolboy Leagues in soccer will not be back before kids return to school.
average_runner wrote: » Maybe i am out of touch with school boy soccer league, but in my time it didn't start till Sept anyhow, same applies to gaa now also
average_runner wrote: » If you don't get the guidelines then there is a bigger problem. I do believe schools need to put their own proposals forward, teachers know the kids better than an official. And if the guidelines are realistic, shout loud and strike if needs be.
Murple wrote: » Schools need some guidelines in order to be able to put together proposals. We need to know what will be allowed, expected and required e.g. Will there be a minimum number of hours tuition for pupils? Will we be required to do remote teaching for those not in school? Will attendance records be kept? Will children be expected to distance from each other? Will we be expected to teach a full curriculum or focus on core subjects? Will there be any health based insurance restrictions as to whether certain staff and pupils can be on site e.g. high risk individuals? Once we are told the regulations, then and only then can schools realistically come up with proposals for how they can implement it in their own school setting. We also need the back up of guidelines from the department so that we don't have certain parents pushing back or causing problems.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » All will be found to be completely unnecessary by the time August rolls around. Why do you think our schools aren't open now? It's because government knows nothing substantial could be arranged as regards safety in schools while the virus is still here. So rather than put proper plans in place and open them up asap they will wait it out until there's close to zero risk and the schools will open back up as they would any start of school year. Kids will be told to wash their hands etc and bring in their own hygiene items, schools might get extra budget for cleaning measures but that will be the extent of it.
CruelSummer wrote: » Minister of Education Joe McHugh apparently said it's hard to see schools reopening fully in September due to the 2metre rule, RTE seemed to want to hype this up with a push notification to my phone - this is just woeful from our government. Cases are falling day on day, children are not spreaders or even badly affected by the virus. For goodness sake make your own decisions, and stop trying to put everything on Dr Tony & Co.. they are always going to advise the worst case scenario. Let's not forget they would still have the over 70s inside and not even out for a walk currently if they had their way.
average_runner wrote: » No its called looking at the stats. There is a steady fall, we hit under 50 last weekend. Going by previous patterns we should be under 50 at the of next week.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Teams can train together in a week's time if they want to. It will come down to what coaches and instructors are comfortable with but they have the go ahead to start from the 8th of June.
mullinr2 wrote: » Get out a measuring tape and measure 2m. How are schools going to manage to accommodate any amount of students. Kids will only be able to go to school 1 or 2 days a week. 1m is the only way to go. Remember for 80 percent who get Covid 19 it's a mild or moderate symptoms. We are giving up alot for the 20 percent
timmy_mallet wrote: » Yes. Either all in or all out. There is no workable or humane alternative. I've two kids starting in September, and they won't be if any social distancing, standing in squares in the playground, teacher behind a glass screen, 1/2 in 1/2 out etc. is proposed...They will be fully home-schooled.
SusanC10 wrote: » I thought that I read somewhere that the 4 people meeting outside would increase to 8 people on June 8th but can't seem to find that now. Anyway, none of our Kids' Activities/Clubs etc are starting back in Phase 2. Joe McHugh reportedly saying that Roadmap to reopen Schools will be published in 2 weeks time.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » The mention of 4 people dissappears by 29th of June they don't have a figure on it after that. From 8th of June we have a 20km distance and up to 4 people can go to visit another household indoors (so technically 4 people can go visit another household regardless of how many live in that household).
Boggles wrote: » Previous patterns were based on "lockdown". We opened up again to a limited degree last Monday week, infection data from that if any has not manifested itself yet. The data from other European countries suggest an initial increase after opening up again. Best not to make conclusive conclusions on events that haven't happened yet, stats or otherwise.
timmy_mallet wrote: » Well, he's correct. Utterly unfeasible, as most of pre-covid life is, with 2m guidance. Holohan has always said (paraphrasing his weasly words) 'these are the guidelines, it's not up to me to tell the D of E what to do...'
CruelSummer wrote: » children are not spreaders or even badly affected by the virus.
Tommysocks11 wrote: » How many of these talked about second waves have we seen worldwide.....none thats it, people are scared of second wave when we didnt have a first one even, thet said in march 100k could die from it if we didn't take any measures when in fact most of the 1600 that died unfortunately are over 82 which is over normal life expectancy, economy will be destroyed if we dont open up not to mention all the other cancer and heart screenings etc thats all been put on hold
spaceHopper wrote: » I don't believe that for one second, there was a very small study that suggested that but come on as every parent knows kids pick up bugs make them stronger and give them to their parents, at least that has been my experience. Why would that be any different for covid 19? The doesn't pass the simple common sense test.
