JDMC2 wrote: » I’m in a very similar situation however I’m reluctant to base my final decision on the mocks....I suspect that a couple of the students may have had a peek at the already published papers. That’s only a feeling though. I’m going to have to base it on their participation in class and my ‘professional judgement’
Will I be able to get details of the information provided about me to the Department (estimated percentage mark and class rank) before the issue of the results? No. Data protection legislation allows for restrictions to be placed on access to certain types of personal data including the results of examinations. Requests for access to the school’s estimated percentage mark and rank order will not be active until the date of issue of the results. After the results are issued by the Department, you will be able to access this information.
rainbowtrout wrote: » Our principal sent us a copy of the documentation the students got this morning about registering on the portal for calculated grades. They have until Thursday to do it. In the FAQs at the end of the document it says
Bobtheman wrote: » I have four students whose grade avegerage is 51.2. I just then had to use the Mocks and if the mocks were the same the last grade I gave them,
Treppen wrote: » The leaving cert grade you actually give is based on your judgement of what they 'could' achieve on their best day.
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » Not on their best day, just what you'd expect them to get. How would they have done on the day, all things being equal, that's all.
JDMC2 wrote: » Thank you for your observation, I am a concerned teacher ��*��.......and a concerned parent of a LC student......however, I like to keep them as separate tasks
Legend Numerous Fig wrote: » It specifically rules out using "what you may think they have a reasonable chance of getting on a good day". This is the most difficult line in the document imo. Very unfair I think.
Treppen wrote: » Gave them what? You really need to stay away from averages. There is zero formula possible to arrive at a grade through averages. Every single exam a student does is in transition and not or never will be a leaving cert grade. The leaving cert grade you actually give is based on your judgement of what they 'could' achieve on their best day.
Legend Numerous Fig wrote: » As for class tests, again I think school context must be a big factor. I would always have had lots of students, mostly boys, who would fail class tests all the time in 5th, scrape by in early 6th, but pull it all together by putting the head down in January. Laziness meant they didn't learn procedures properly until they felt it was time to bother, but they could problem solve and interpret better than most so once they practiced the basics they were flying. About 70% of boys I have had for HL Maths have gone up minimum 15% from mocks.
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » We all have those students, that's part of your professional judgement. It's mentioned in the guidelines. You know them so give what you think they'd have gotten.
rainbowtrout wrote: » I don't agree. Every year students get on better in some subjects and worse in others than they expected. Students don't all perform to their optimum level across all subjects. 'Their best day' refers to the one who has only learned one English poet and hope it comes up. If it comes up great, if it doesn't they'll be winging it. There was a post here in the last couple of days that said class tests weren't a fair indicator of what a student's ability is. I disagree with that too. That is students performing on their best day. They know exactly the topic or chapter they are being examined on. There are no nasty questions, in that most teachers I imagine are not whacking out exam questions to their fifth years, they just want students to learn the material first and foremost. Students know what they have to learn for a chapter test so are given the opportunity to show what they are capable of on more simplistic tests on a smaller range of material. If they have reached a ceiling on class tests in terms of their marks, it's far less likely that they will improve on that on their best day in the LC if the questions go their way on an unseen paper on the whole course.
Bobtheman wrote: » Can I ask a question about FORM A-it says Programme LCE/LCVP and Then LCA. Which do you tick for the Ordinary LC? Leaving Cert??
JD3112 wrote: » Anyone know the story about LCAs who don't sit an exam? They usually get credits awarded for completion of modules. I would have already awarded those credits to Year 6 students (when they were in Year 5). Year 5 students would have been awarded them in May 2020. Form A & B have estimated % mark and nothing about credits (which would either be 0, 1 or 2 for my subject) Doesn't make sense to me that I would use Form A & B in this context???
Bobtheman wrote: » What about kids who are on the roll but have never turned Up? In LC
ngunners wrote: » Would imagine you can't predict a grade for someone you've never seen?
