lulublue22 wrote: » I actually think its nonsensical. Im in regular contact with my parents re online learning and issues arising from same. But updates re schools reopening / whats going to happen. No because Ive no idea until the dep issues guidelines re same. Now maybe I read it wrong but it seemed to me his issue with the principal was due to the principal not keeping parents informed of what is happening. We are in the middle of a global pandemic schools are closed and we are waiting on guidelines from the dep to reopen. I can image the uproar if any principal emailed the above. It would be seen as extremely condescending and patronising in the extreme.
Benimar wrote: » Philip Nolan just said that as low as 1% could have had the virus in Ireland. He puts the maximum at 5%. To use his exact words 'there is no immunity' if the virus starts to spread again.
plodder wrote: » If it weren't for other countries prepared to do these "experiments" then we wouldn't even know what we currently do about the rate of spreading among children. It was previously assumed (including by me) that children were super-spreaders and "petri-dishes". If every country followed us, then that would still be the conventional wisdom. More importantly, the message coming from government consistently now is that we are going to have to live with the virus for a number of years. Widespread vaccine availability is still a long way off. That means we are going to have to try things, and if they don't work, back off and try something else. Call it an experiment if you like.
daydorunrun wrote: » Maybe I wasn't clear, my gripe was purely because of the tone and lack of any sort of acknowledgment of the current situation as regarding the kids needs for the next couple of months when sending a payment request for next year 3 months early. I am in no way teacher bashing here either, this is down to a principle that is not a very good 'people person', she is by the way a brilliant educator. As I said before I don't need anybody to hold my hand here. Simple etiquette would normally dictate that if you were sending out a request for money early because of a very unusual situation you would also take the opportunity to wish people well, especially the kids because of the current situation, she just has a cold manner- I don't hold it against her as it really is a small thing and not making it into the whinge fest I was accused of. There is way too much spikiness in here considering we all want the same thing.
kandr10 wrote: » I’m confident my child won’t be socially stunted though. She’s doing fine! I’m grateful for that. I know there’s plenty of kids, probably older than my own, who wouldn’t be coping as well. I also know I’m not in a minority though. I saw a couple of tv polls that indicated 80% of parents were happy to wait til sept and over 70% we’re happy at the rate at which restrictions were being eased. I know these are not official cso quality surveys or anything but it’s an indication. What have you seen to suggest most parents would want their kids back? Is it anecdotal?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » I think they've proven that there is immunity in those previously infected but it's just a question of how long it lasts. It's strange that Stockholm only had roughly 8% of population with antibodies from their sample and they didn't shut anything down. I suppose we'll get a clearer picture from our own sample study in a couple of weeks.
lulublue22 wrote: » Then I misunderstood your post. Communication is badly needed during this time by both teachers and parents. Hopefully this is something that the principal may improve on over time. In relation to spikiness I can only speak for myself . I find it demoralising and head wrecking the underlying anti teacher sentiment on boards in general and in particular by a cohort of posters on this thread. There are a number of posters who resort to anti teacher sentiment when any issues are raised. Allegations of bullying and toxic environment have been banded about when questioned on opinions which are posted as facts. Everyone is entitled to an opinion that does not make it a fact. I find it frustrating as it inhibits any meaningful debate. Schools will need to return we need to do that in a way which will maximise teaching and learning while keeping everyone involved safe. At the end of the day most teachers are parents too - we are trying to do our best for our students while also ensuring our own children keep pace with work set. Not an easy task at all much like any other parent wfh.
morebabies wrote: » Does anyone know what other countries have done re:families with vulnerable members going back to school? My children are asthmatic, I'm asthmatic and going to be in my last trimester of pregnancy when the schools reopen. Nervous to say the least.
kowloonkev wrote: » Well nobody is going to know the impact on their children when they're at home without social experiences. A poll might show 80% of people were happy to wait until September but did it show 80% would be unhappy to go back earlier? I'm not exactly sure how it was worded or if there were options. I have only anecdotal evidence so I wouldn't argue much over that.
lulublue22 wrote: » Unfortunately I don’t but I’m hoping it will be one of the areas that the dep will issue clear guidelines around. I’ve an asthmatic child and I’d love some clear guidance re her return to school and if my return will put her at risk. eta I’m finding it difficult to source any definitive information on how at risk being asthmatic is. I find the whole thing confusing in terms of how at risk being asthmatic is if that makes sense.
plodder wrote: » My daughter, who is a primary teacher has asthma. So, we were worried about all of this, since asthma was assumed to be a risk category at the start. But, I remember reading somewhere that asthma sufferers haven't been hit harder than the general population, but the information is sketchy. I would think that nobody is going to force children who their parents think are at risk to go back to school. I can't speak for teachers, but I think my daughter will go back (if she can).
Higgins5473 wrote: » I'm asthmatic and my 4 year old is severely asthmatic. I'm a teacher and my son is due to start school. There is very little conclusive information on anything with this disease at the moment. The Irish department of health (let alone dept of ed) will not have anything in terms of clear guidelines and risk regarding your child by September and if they do and you believe it you'd be very foolish. The demands on answers from supposedly intelligent people about this virus are bordering on ridiculous. The disease exists and is in its infancy, the instant answers and deliveries we are so used aren't going to happen.
lulublue22 wrote: » You are free to accept not accept any guidelines outlined by the dep.
Higgins5473 wrote: » You are mixing up guidelines and directives, both have very different implications. Teachers will get 'directives' to perform x,y and z. They will then have 'guidelines' on how to follow these directives. How safe and how well these will be is anyone's guess and will be the same in September. So my point still is, expecting positive answers and reassurance by some dept of health/ed directive in late August will be at best; experimental, at worst; worthless. So stop kidding yourself that whatever they come up with will some kind of safeguard.
sideswipe wrote: » Disgusting what the ASTI are doing by not accepting a state indemnity in relation to LC grading. These are emergency times and it needs everyone to pull together. Colm O’Rourke saying on tv they have a policy of opposition, imagine if our frontline workers took this kind of stance when so much was asked of them during this pandemic.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Unfortunately it's not surprising, deluded unions, really need a good dose of reality at this stage. Disgraceful carry on and will leave a very bad taste, they'll have very little public support for anything like that given the circumstances that the entire country finds itself in. There's a time and place and it's not now.
Windorah wrote: » How dare the ASTI ensure their members are not sued!!! The neck of them...
Windorah wrote: » Have you actually read what the union are requesting??
daydorunrun wrote: » Haven't been following it but have they not been offered indemnity by the state?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » A state indemnity has been approved by government but no that's not enough, a union advising its members not to engage at a time like this is disgraceful (but like I said not at all surprising). Everyone making sacrifices and pulling together all across the country. People risking their own lives and that of their families so they can care for others during the peak. It's actually awful behaviour and people will remember it.
Windorah wrote: » Christ
