wirelessdude01 wrote: » So no art, music or OE?
khalessi wrote: » Thing is it wont be normal, it is not normal for the schools in Europe or round the world either from what we have seen. I was talking to a secondary school teacher yesterday about what they thought and they said that they are trying to plan for September and are looking at different ideas, including bringing half the school in one week and the other half the next week and putting teaching online. They then discussed the reprecussions of this on the kids such as not being in sme group as friends and the issues that could cause. In their words it is a minefield they are trying to get through while attending to the chlildrens educational, social and psychological needs.
Scruff101 wrote: » Interesting ideas. My sister is secondary as is a neighbour, two different schools. In contrast they're planning as normal for Sept until.theyre advised otherwise.
daydorunrun wrote: » It is a total minefield. I know teachers often say we are not a babysitting service and of course ye are not, everybody knows and appreciates the roll you guys play (well maybe some don't but theres always a few). But outside of schools an economy has developed and evolved in symbiosis with schools- kids go to school- parents go to work. If schools go part-time as is the suggestion here, the knock on effect on an already shaken economy is huge. If the economy can't be resurrected then it's bad news for everyone if we end up in some sort of depression with zero funding for schools and teachers. It is for this reason, rightly or wrongly, I think there will be a drive to get back to a new normal that doesn't include 2 days on 2 days off or something like that.
downthemiddle wrote: » In many of the larger schools discussions will not have filtered down through the staff yet. There is no point in stressing people with ten or twelve possible scenarios when most of them will not materialise. We have seen on this thread how people respond to speculation and run with it. Most discussions at the moment will be taking place between management bodies, principals and in school management teams along with representative bodies. They are attempting to resolve many of the challenges school will face. It is an ever changing landscape. Very few would have predicted that schools would be in this position eleven weeks ago. Nobody can accurately predict where we will be in eleven weeks time.
lulublue22 wrote: » I think that is a major issue with this thread. Posters who feel more than qualified to post opinions as facts though it is clear that they have absolutely no idea of either the practicalities of the situation or the difficulties faced at the local level.
plodder wrote: » There's a tendency though to deal with the points that are easily refuted and ignore the harder questions - eg like how can other countries send their children back to school, and still see declining cases, or at least no resulting spike. I'd like to know if it's possible to put a simple plan in place to send primary children back to school for even the last month of the school year. Eg on a voluntary basis, every second day, with simple measures like keeping all doors and windows open for circulation of air. Obviously, a different plan is needed for September.
khalessi wrote: » This has been discussed before re the windows and doors, the difficulty is not all schools are designed the same. In my school there is a tiny fly windown at the top and bottom of the frame and solid glass in the middle which dont open fully for H&S reasons and dont provide proper air circulation. In the summer months we are baked and I have the students knocking back water to beat the band, it is seriously bad. In another part of the school, the prefabs just have a fly window with a grill outside so they are not broken into. The grill cant be lifted and the window if I remember correctly only opens 3 inches, it is like a microwave and the open door doesnt help much.
kowloonkev wrote: » It would make so much more sense to get them back to school asap before a shortened summer break for a trial run. Just for a month or so and then better planning can be achieved for next semester.
downthemiddle wrote: » A little experiment just to see what could possibly go wrong?
kandr10 wrote: » Yeah I wouldn’t be keen for my child to be part of a trial run I have to say. Not when we’re still at a stage of not having had Proper contact with family and friends. Seems bonkers.
kandr10 wrote: » Yeah I wouldn’t be keen for my child to be part of a trial run I have to say.
kowloonkev wrote: » Yes.
downthemiddle wrote: » Does your mother know that you are talking to strangers on the internet?
Mrsmum wrote: » By contrast I was watching a feature a few weeks back about a school in Monaghan and before any plan they were getting all the door handles changed to what was news to me - anti virus handles.
Mrsmum wrote: » Some teachers here have spoken about the Government plan. Am I mad in thinking I'd trust the local school to take the correct steps to get things right in their specific schools as much as some overall macro level plan. The Government know little or nothing about unique issues in every school. Katherine Zappone came out with her childcare plan yesterday and immediately on tv, two creche owners said her plan was unworkable on the ground. By contrast I was watching a feature a few weeks back about a school in Monaghan and before any plan they were getting all the door handles changed to what was news to me - anti virus handles. And anyway don't we know the score at this stage & what the Government are going to say - there must be social distance, there must be hand sanitation, there must be face coverings, one way in out systems, staggered drop off/collections. I just don't see the Government are going to be coming up with any magical plans to make it all flow nicely and anyway it is at local level such plans must be adjusted to suit. I think school personnel and parents will have to co operate together to do /provide whatever is required in this.
c montgomery wrote: » How many kids have died of covid in ireland? How come Denmark, Croatia and others have opened with no adverse effects? Ireland will be open again soon, you re free to stay at home avoiding the "grim reaper "
Hubertj wrote: » this will be a shambles. Dept of Education incompetence combined with union involvement will mean a total disaster. My wife and I have already organised a childminder. Can't rely on creche or primary school. I wfh but my wife doesnt. It is not an option for me to care for kids and work.
Treppen wrote: » This shows what people don't understand, it's not just about getting it, it's about spreading it.
plodder wrote: » In fairness, the evidence, from Denmark (haven't checked the others) is that opening primary schools has not resulted in spreading.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Several reports have said the the spread in under 14s is much less than those who are older. So despite earlier information suggesting they are little superspreaders, the opposite is the case. Probably safer in a classroom of primary school children than an open plan office environment.
