jrosen wrote: » Can I ask why when a school needs a teacher they hire a temp? My child had a temp last year who then left because he was offered a perm position at another school. Then they hired another temp. Secondary schools have a huge shortage. Its been a big issue at our secondary school. My own was weeks without a home Ec teacher and about 3 weeks without an english teacher. Lots of free periods too when the teachers had commitment with exam students.
khalessi wrote: » Its a joke, my god did you get lobotomised:D Sheesh humour is allowed
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » As you said to another poster earlier does adding a smiley face make a veiled (not veiled) insult OK?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » You think that if a teacher decides to leave their post that there won't be someone eager waiting to fill it immediately? My point is that there would be no shortage of available teachers right now if they were needed. Make progress or make excuses.
MerlinSouthDub wrote: » I wouldn't be rushing to open the schools in June, but why not end the school year now and reopen them in August. So, shift the school holidays by one month. It would mean schools could start getting back earlier. It shouldn't inconvenience teachers as we can't travel abroad anyway.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » I think it's likely to do with the terms being offered to subs and temps. If they find something better or more permanent then they are going to go with that position. Yes there should be a panel of subs available for some occasions but it's shouldn't be the norm for entry level teachers (which it has become for a lot of them). If there were a large number of permanent teaching positions made available tomorrow then there would not be a major issue filling them because obviously they are more desirable.
kandr10 wrote: » It actually isn’t the norm at the moment. There is no panel of subs. There was about 13 years ago but literally those lists are empty and a sub cannot be found for love nor money. We had a several temporary positions that couldn’t be filled that arose because of retirements within the school and maternity. The learning support team had to step in and take turns subbing in these classes, which is grossly unfair to everyone involved - the teachers, the class of kids waiting on a teacher, the kids who are entitled to learning support. Several people have mentioned this to you already on the thread. I’m not sure why you don’t believe us?
khalessi wrote: » Well I dont take holidays abroad I holiday in Ireland and spend them doing cpd courses, I cant go abroad for various reasons though I would love to.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » The INTO have been fighting to get sub panels introduced for a number of years. There was a small trial ongoing this year or planned for next year. Can't remember which.
Lyle wrote: » It's not about the teachers, it's about the Department of Education issuing guidelines and funding and the schools are listed for a September comeback because September is 3 weeks after the scheduled Phase 5 on August 10th. They need all that time to plan and to monitor the disease for three weeks after the planned full reopening of society on August 10th. Schools are basically Phase 6 but calling it that kinda ruins the 5 Phase Flow for the PR and spinners, and it really is not gonna change. Go listen to Ronan Glynn at the DoH brief earlier, or look for DeGascun rebuking Nabarro this morning. The experts at the top of health and virology seem pretty unanimously staunch that it's just not feasible any faster.
MerlinSouthDub wrote: » Well that's not true at all. There is absolutely no evidence that schools need to wait until September from an epidemicological perspective.They are just saying September because they don't want them to go back in June, which is fair enough. They are operating based on the traditional school year but they need to think outside the box a little bit
khalessi wrote: » i think everybodys holidays should be cancelled this year in every job and we should all work 6 or 7 day weeks to help pay back the borrowing that the country has had to do.
MerlinSouthDub wrote: » Nope. I'm just saying bring the holidays forward by one month. The holidays will be exactly the same length!
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » This is already happening for some people, some people on covid payment won't accrue annual leave for the time they weren't working even though they couldn't work. That could be up to half of their annual leave quota for the year just gone.
MerlinSouthDub wrote: » Well that's not true at all. There is absolutely no evidence that schools need to wait until September from an epidemiological perspective.They are just saying September because they don't want them to go back in June, which is fair enough. They are operating based on the traditional school year but they need to think outside the box a little bit
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » Yet the LC exams couldn't happen in August? Not even the optional ones for those unhappy with calculated grades?
MerlinSouthDub wrote: » If you can point me to any epidemiological basis why it's ok to go back to school in September but not in August, then I'm happy to read it.
daydorunrun wrote: » Wow you Really are triggered, is it not possible to discuss work arounds for a most unusual set of circumstances without you feeling every possible suggestion isn’t an attack on teachers?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Defensiveness is usually a symptom of denial or frustration at not being in control. Hostile environment in this thread though no worthy suggestion/option or any notion that schools will return will be entertained.
downthemiddle wrote: » Still waiting for you to answer a simple question.
khalessi wrote: » i am not defensive there has been plenty of suggestions abaot reopening schools school by me and many others but generally they are ignored, with grand sweeping responses like that. As you have been told and ignored, every teacher on here would prefert to be teaching in the classroom but why let that get in the way of the narrative in your head.
