ohnonotgmail wrote: » These are the emails that trump sends to his supporters looking for donations. They would make a nigerian prince blush. What sort of gullible idiot falls for this?
notobtuse wrote: » I think it says exactly what I think it does. Those numbers for democrats vs republicans are typical regarding Trump. It’s the Independent numers that is most interesting, and they’re the ones who will most probably dictate how the election goes. It’s always been said here people vote with their wallets. It’s no secret that we have and for some time going forward will have high unemployment numbers that everyone directly or indirectly are dealing with. The independents overall don’t put the blame squarely on Trump (26% only somewhat, 36% none, equaling 62% that won’t be blaming Trump as the major cause of the unemployment problem). Important numbers!
notobtuse wrote: » How about NO STATE gets any coronavirus funding to pay for their pension problems! You can't get any more 'no Red vs Blue stuff' than that!
Cody montana wrote: » Breaking #FoxNews Alert : Barr says he does not expect criminal investigation of Obama or Biden arising from Durham probe.
Barr did say, however, that “not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is necessarily a federal crime.”
Quin_Dub wrote: » For now - I don't see a path to him making those number demonstratively better though. Unemployment isn't going to bounce back to anything remotely like it was before the Election. Like I said, if you're a "somewhat" or "none" today , what's the response going to be in September/October when you still don't have a job? Also , the Republican negative numbers aren't great , they have typically been the inverse of the Dem numbers in other polls about Trump thus far which is not the case here. But to your main point in your post , which was a pot-shot at the Media - I'm not seeing any disconnect between what those numbers show and "Journalistic Integrity" - November will be a vote on Trumps handling of the Virus of that there is no doubt - That survey shows that while thus far he's maybe not lost many voters (he's certainly lost some small amount though looking at the GOP numbers) he's definitely not winning over any new voters with his performance. So again I ask you - Where is this alleged lack of Journalistic Integrity??
notobtuse wrote: » I called it! For the good of the nation... We'll just hope their generals are okay with being thrown under the bus for them.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Well colour me shocked.. Will Trump label him a failure of an AG now? I love this quote from him though Is he talking about Obama or Trump here??
notobtuse wrote: » My point about the biased mainstream media is they are predicting Armageddon for Trump because of (fill in any reason here) __________. And that there are indications that just don’t point to the end of the world for the president that the media ignores because it goes against their agenda. And what will people who still don’t have jobs in Sep/Oct think? They’ll remember how hard Trump pushed to get people back to work and the economic engine back on track, but was opposed every step of the way by democrats who consider the unwashed masses hardships an acceptable causality if it means keeping Orange Man Bad from getting reelected.
Danzy wrote: » Impeachment was a dead duck and a stunt. It was dropped very quickly.
Brian? wrote: » You called it? My hole you did. You were blabbering on about Obama et al "lawyering up" last week.
kowloon wrote: » I don't believe this is real. Someone has to have made that at home. I'm not saying it is necessarily a Democrat supporter who made it, maybe it was a Trump supporter doing some false flag fake news, but it seems way too much like a Nigerian scam for me to think it's genuine.
Carfacemandog wrote: » Looks like it's real and endorsed by Trump and the republicans.https://secure.winred.com/DJT/trump-vip-club/?amount=250&utm_medium=ad&utm_source=dp_fbig&utm_campaign=20200424_na_vipclub_djt_djtfund_ocpmypur_cm_audience0371_creative03190_copy01906_us_b_18-65_nf_all_na_lp0434_fund_conversion_static_1_1_na&utm_content=fun&__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=4ecae0719cc6505a258884cffb5916951fab8e73-1589826146-0-AZTh9kAUJ-Zz7F7ts4nI4y2ni8pla5FmXD7PZ0LZPQ0dYSp8Nh2rxFWVlfnIBM1ark2g7crlf46B7ExOPS_6-Nwu9kslAReGJt1plJEJko3WSvMBvMVgPbMUqgjcPf0QRrwdB3P5vfAwfvFYBXg-tXJPBDRdUkJwzg3KS-o0AHWUHho-GTGD5UftCv7ucxdtc16PHvU_YJ2yS_bPMKOXsKlXE2_3V4NoOPhQ55dPxHYNSxlNESJQEADzNw0O2IFPquObmNiz-Qr7zPj_Ay61PVyb7s8p2iIcyTLd6FgLrkuTw01VTS0v5df_uBMRajJ9zgpGRcMmBFiVev995G1nVoY20HCdp54AlfC23PuZ0UPccEY4Xt2Mn0l-tAEoT1d9eO-kigVJpX7xRgfHx-EJeMPhNMwLiY76hlngvH3QKbn957YqrD_kLWnkoORzd2_R3lXaCoLbMQg6IoaseoSwCPBtn7afmel3hMk0eVUyiVZBGHlLLolWgU_mILZ-_vPt7pJ2OSYwtqM8jeuDzkAgCZxzxwjQsHCFEySp7nfQ3lhdVMcvaue7gUjYLEl23rsnlrcJTJY4Umc8y-AiUrC2p803sIZjyBfH1ARqcgiDZWUhPUMWNl-e_stfQPxuBIfdy5WlZmnzRs7TCz4Y7n1u5UKI6ry4LOyHx7Ys-swPyvaTDhNjo-Cxp6NdifuBqPUM8NuyWaPNuA0naRBFmYMBFvETEqOp-uFutoT7n4KOQgmvL-ZPME-42B_0w_AlHSgdGWgvIiBAwl58mdJYH2CzxgTIrEGbvLZFB88NALRcyDUzfoF1YlG_zla3ItkYZJE-BsftIk-WiuuaaFWfiVr6RT_ov7OWQ90hDL2MV2qbwz4Ghttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinRedWinRed is an American Republican Party (GOP) fundraising platform endorsed by the Republican National Committee and President Donald Trump.
notobtuse wrote: » Look back at several of my postings in the last couple of weeks. I've said numerous times Obama, Biden and H Clinton wouldn't be indicted or prosecuted for the good of the nation. And if you don't think Obama and Biden haven't talked to lawyers about their involvement in the illegal take-down of Flynn and their involvement in efforts to derail Trump's presidency... I've a bridge in NY to sell you.
kowloon wrote: » Damn, it reeks of scam. Is this an American thing or unique to this campaign?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » why would that make you think it wasnt real? trump has been defrauding people for years. him and his family defrauded a childrens cancer charity.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Or will they rail against Republicans who consider the unwashed masses illness and deaths an acceptable casualty if it means Trump getting re-elected? They might not just not have their job back , they could be looking at even more friends or relatives sacrificed for the "Economy" by the GOP. Early days , but could go either way couldn't it?? The curve has not been flattened ,cases and deaths are still rising but the Economy is more important right?
Carfacemandog wrote: » Not a clue to be honest, I just googled some keywords and came up with the link. I figured it was still some kind of scam to be honest until I looked up winred and got some that wiki link. I remember Trumps official website (I think at least - it was something official) mooching for donations weeks after the 2016 election too, and notobtuse has said he has got a bunch of them so they may not be that rare at all. Here is one for Biden, though it is framed a little differently (none of the 'be a VIP!' stuff) - https://joebiden.com/donate-embed/
ohnonotgmail wrote: » sign up to the trump 2020 website and the second question is how much you want to donate
notobtuse wrote: » It's mostly a thing from US Presidents. There's an aura about presidential families. I remember also getting them from other presidents families around election time... Michelle Obama, Laura Bush and Nancy Reagan. Don't recall any from Hillary Clinton, though.
Quin_Dub wrote: » I totally get the need to fund raise etc. and would expect lots of the typical begging letters. Not all that different to the calls/mails you might get here from Charities . "You can make a Difference" , " A Donation of X would fund Y activity" etc. But the language in those mails is just horrendous - I mean the whole "Eric asked me at dinner" thing..damn. That's beyond naff and cheesy and well into parody. It would actively make you not want to donate just for the fact that they clearly think the recipient is a moron if they expect that tripe to resonate..
Sweetemotion wrote: » I see, creepy uncle Joe is going to have AOC co-chair the climate task force if elected.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Another one using Trumps idiotic childish names :rolleyes: