wirelessdude01 wrote: » This 100%. I said it on our zoom staff meeting last week that talking about things for next September was in my opinion a waste of time until we got some form of guidance or guidelines from the Dept. We all know it will probably be vague and will have to be teased out at local level.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Still the same. You have yet to actually answer any question directly asked of you about how you are/have engaged your students during this crisis. I personally know that in our school everyone is doing their bit for their students and can say the same of my close personal friends in other schools. As regards your distain for your school and your colleagues, have you considered resigning and looking for a job in a school which would be a better fit for your own personality? Can't be nice to be so miserable in a school community that you obviously don't like. I know that I myself once refused a permanent job in a school as I knew I wouldn't be able to stick the management style of the principal.
JJJackal wrote: » So you are working the same number of hours or more now than when you were physically in class?
JJJackal wrote: » Do all teachers have laptops or computers and internet access at home? Presume all teachers would have access to these in school?
Random sample wrote: » More... Corrections can’t be done in class the way they are when the kids are in front of you, back and forth interactions take longer. When 6 kids make the same error, I will normally correct it on the board, not go through it with each individual separately. When they’re in front of you you can see what they’ve done wrong and how they got there, and it’s easier and quicker to fix. Meetings are also taking up more time. We would normally meet over lunch, but that doesn’t work for me online. I’m sure there are countless other things that take longer to do. Bottom line, I’d rather be back in school, and the closer that can be to normal the better for me.
teachinggal123 wrote: » Why does what I am doing have any bearing on anything? It’s just an excuse to discredit what I am saying because it goes against the narrative some teachers are trying to spin. I am just telling my own experiences ... that is that a significant amount of teachers are doing very little. I am unwilling to disclose any personal information on this or any other social media. I would ask everyone to please respect this and to stop continuously asking me the same question. And btw, I do love my job (apart from a horrible few weeks at the start of the year) and have no intention of moving anywhere. But thanks for your thoughts and consideration
wirelessdude01 wrote: » How can I answer that? The dept just assumed that we all do. Actually they just assumed that all students had as well. What have those questions got to do with my comment about planning for what happens in September?
JJJackal wrote: » If you are working longer to educate Irelands children, I am very appreciative of your efforts. Thank you. On a positive note it means, that your probably close to the 51 hours work already
JJJackal wrote: » I agree this is a circular argument. For me this started with me proposing a potential way to get people back to normal pupil teaching contact hours. I think you focus on students in descending order (Leaving Cert, Junior Cert, Fifth year, Second year, First year, Transition year) or whatever order was thought to be best by people in the know
Random sample wrote: » I don’t see that as positive or sustainable.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Significant number of teachers ehh!!!! Based on the replies here that is stretching the truth don't you agree. I keep asking that question about what it is that you are doing because I guess I'm wondering are you too doing nothing so as to fit in with what you say is going on in your school. Not rocking the boat so to speak.
History Queen wrote: » This isn't aimed at you, but I think a lot of what people are interpreting as obstructionist thinking by teachers is actually defensiveness and fatigue at being offered a solution by someone else who doesn't understand the system and refises to accept our explanations for why it may not work or is flawed. Take the LC fiasco for example. Before it was cancelled and replaced with predictive grades there were lots of teachers on here outlining the issues with predictive grades as well as worrying about the fact that students/paremts and media "personalities" were being listened to instead of education experts. Some of these same voices are now bemoaning the unfairness of the system they called for and criticising teachers.... who weren't even consulted throughout the process! Others who claimed it was unsafe for LC students to sit exams in July/August (ciara kelly newstalk) were on air less than a week latercalling for primary schools to reopen (with the subtext that the lazy teachers don't want to work) It is exhausting and frustrating to have to constantly defend a career that many of us love and are passionate about.
JJJackal wrote: » I suspect that means Dept doesnt give you allowance for laptop? Well if the Dept suggests delivering online education (or part of the week as such) and not everyone has a computer or internet access that would be a significant planning problem.
JJJackal wrote: » Healthcare workers are working extra hours in this crisis. I would appreciate your suggestions btw. As opposed to telling me mine are not great. You work on the ground and likely have a better alternative?
rainbowtrout wrote: » Because it would just be interesting to know if you are the outlier in your staffroom of lazy ass teachers or if you are the same as them. And saying that you use google classroom or microsoft teams and upload material is not disclosing personal information. Your response is weaseling around a very simple question. Teachers are not trying to spin a narrative, they are explaining what they do each day. People who come on forums and bullshit on about all the people in their workplace who do no work according to themselves, yet can't offer a simple description of what they do.... well I tend to put them in the mental filing cabinet where I store alternative facts...
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Well I will confirm that my current address does not have access to a fixed broadband connection. Have to use mobile data to conduct my teaching. Not ideal but hopefully it will be sorted in the near future and not still be an issue come September if we need to still be doing stuff online. The lack of investment in education is coming home to roost now.
teachinggal123 wrote: » I never said I was doing nothing. And there have been a large amount of teachers here (on a different thread) that have said they too are doing very very little.
Random sample wrote: » Any healthcare workers I know are working their normal hours. Annual leave is limited, but available to some that had already booked it. They must be lucky. I have outlined how I think things could go ahead, with the caveat that I don’t know what the public health recommendations are going to be at the time. What line of work are you in yourself? I’m trying to figure out your angle here, I don’t understand why you seem so invested in getting teachers to increase class contact time.
rainbowtrout wrote: » Who? Because I've been on this forum for 13 years and check in on this thread everyday and most people who post on the thread are regulars, and have discussed all aspects of online teaching and the fallout of the LC at length. Don't recall any of them saying that they are treating this as a holiday.
JJJackal wrote: » I have asked for people to offer alternatives
JJJackal wrote: » I work in pharmaceuticals (still have a job with full pay) and have no children- i am non biased really. Healthcare workers i know had their annual leave cancelled and rostered changed at last minute. I suspect it depends on the quantity of COVID in your area (so we could both be correct) Increase contact time was a suggestion to facilitate safer classes for children
lulublue22 wrote: » Primary school teacher - my workload has increased significantly . I’m not particularly techie so I’ve had to get myself up to speed fairly quickly- setting up online class, figuring out how to scan topics and upload via abode scan. Finding video / voice recordings apps so I can explain lessons properly. Figuring out how to convert files to pdf so that I can correct the work children send back via acrobat reader. Thats before I set the work making sure to cater for all levels without setting too much work or work that some children find too easy. Diffreniation is much easier in class as other parents are not aware of the often wide range of abilities within class. For some strange reason given my lack of ICT skills I have also become the resident ICT expert for a small cohort of parents. I’m in regular email contact with parents often up to 9pm at night about a wide range of issues - some not remotely related to teaching 😠I have 3 children that I ring on a regular basis to keep them motivated / ticking over. I’m online daily Mon to Fri engaging with the kids responding to their messages and correcting work. As a school we still have weekly staff meetings , work set has to be emailed to principal etc etc. I’m still working - different to physically being in class but still working. All the while trying to make sure my own children are accessing their online classes and getting work done. Pretty much like most parents who are wfh.
Stewie Griffin wrote: » I must admit I'd like to see these posts too. I read the thread daily and I can't recall these posts being referred to either.
Random sample wrote: » So your only bias is that you don’t have a personal involvement in any of this and don't understand how your suggestion would impact on family life for teachers, parents or students. Gotcha.
teachinggal123 wrote: » Can I ask your opinion of my local primary schools? My local primary schools - all classes and teachers - send one email per week to parents outlining the child’s work for the week. No way to get anything corrected ,no way to contact the teacher.
