Jizique wrote: » Not much sign of the teacher making a sacrifice if they expect 100% salary for extended summer holidays
khalessi wrote: » I presume they will have to do both, it will be interesting to see what is suggested.
timmy_mallet wrote: » Because it's a global pandemic and sacrifices need to be made. We can sacrifice a few Bob for those who cant (health issues) or are unwilling (union agiitators).
The HorsesMouth wrote: » To suggest social distancing for anyone under the age of 10 in schools would show an extreme lack of insight into the life of a child that age. Not to mention the state of some of our schools infrastructure. How can you explain to a junior infant to stay away from their friends? No you can't share that crayon. No you cant go to the toilet as one other child is in the bathroom. No playing in the playground. Anyone suggesting that this is OK to ask children to do need to get a grip.
BonsaiKitten wrote: » So who is doing the planning for students at home? I presume they'd have to be set work and not just told to go study. The teachers will be working their regular day in school, they won't be available for remote learning.
Jizique wrote: » Why should teachers get 100% salary if they decide not to work? Apart from the fact that they have strong unions and good political links. If the schools are open and they decide not to work, how can the govt justify full pay?
khalessi wrote: » Are you suggesting no social distancing for schools
timmy_mallet wrote: » Farce. Utter utter farce. Either they go in and you forget about social distancng or they dont. Ni middle ground. Try socially distance school going-age children with one adult present. Not possible. The government needs to get a grip on their recommendations asap. If you dont want your child there. Remote learning. If a teacher doesn't want to be there, fine, 100% salary till they feel safe, and get someone who does in
JTMan wrote: » The Sunday Times reports here (paywall): - Some or all pupils spending weeks at school interspersed with alternate weeks studying at home. - The 2021 Leaving Cert year is likely to be given priority in getting back to school, but the group is expected to look at a staggered return for non-exam years. So most students will be 50% remote and 50% in classrooms.
JTMan wrote: » Meanwhile, the Sunday Independent reports here (free article) that schools may not be able to open at all in September.
timmy_mallet wrote: » That's not a solution, it's a complete fudge that solves nothing. Either all on or all out, there is no middle ground. Which half? Which parents can choose which half, what sports do the miss out on. Half the education of children to save 2/3rds of the people that would be dead in a year anyway, and most of whom will be dead by September anyway (ohh, death, ohh, one life, ohhh, dont go there)
not optimistic about reopening schools in September as planned under the Government's roadmap.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Come 'summer holidays' kids will be mixing anyway if not before then. Italy are planning on reopening schools in September and many other EU countries are already doing so now. Is there any real benefit of keeping schools closed come September if we continue to see decreases in case numbers? I think we'll see schools reopen as normal by the end of August with some increased hygiene and sanitation.
BoatMad wrote: » no simply an observation , none of my wifes class are sick for example
Lillyfae wrote: » I haven't done suggested anything of the sort, in fact, I agree that predicted grades would be a fiasco. There's no preparation for any kind of continuous assessment because teachers have been throwing roadblocks in front of that for years. Would have helped in this situation. IT infrastructure doesn't exist but can be made to very easily. This should have been prioritised at the very beginning of all this, not in 2 weeks time, which was my original criticism. Training might not be in place but there are plenty of resources, just look at suggestions that have been made here. Again, pro-activeness is required, some teachers here have outlined how they're going about it. Where is the solution? I haven't critiqued any solutions, but attitudes. We can accept the situation but that doesn't mean giving up totally because things might require a different process. Is it the school holidays or something?
khalessi wrote: » If this is based on the idea that children cant spread the virus there wa sa study published in The Lancet last week by Chinese researchers and Johns Hopkins University actually showing that children can catch it as easily as adults and spread it too
BoatMad wrote: » actually , lots of people arnt sick and the cohort with kids in schools are least likely to be sick
iguana wrote: » The thing here is schools are caught between varying levels of parental expectation. Some parents want their kids to have virtually the same level of school as they would normally have. On the other end of the scale there are parents who would actually prefer for little to no communication from school either because there is genuinely no way they can facilitate that kind of schooling at home due to their own work commitments of because they/a family member is ill (remember this is all happening because of a virus, lots of people are actually sick). Or because their way of coping with the pandemic is to keep things relaxed and fun at home. Or because they are finding that doing immersive projects/gameplay/reading for fun is more then enough for their children's education right now. So there is no way for teachers to actually make everyone happy.
IT infrastructure doesn't exist but can be made to very easily. This should have been prioritised at the very beginning of all this, not in 2 weeks time, which was my original criticism. Training might not be in place but there are plenty of resources, just look at suggestions that have been made here. Again, pro-activeness is required, some teachers here have outlined how they're going about it.
khalessi wrote: » Weak retort
