beggars_bush wrote: » I hope children don't carry the same level of vitriol into school everyday that many parents and posters here seem to harbour towards teachers and schools
CageWager wrote: » Its unfair to lay blame on teachers for the current lack of a coordinated approach to education - that has to come from the top. You can’t take a large cohort of workers who (in the normal course of events) are not expected to innovate and then all of a sudden expect them to create new ways of learning under such extreme circumstances. Also surely all teachers in the state should be issued with a laptop. How can anyone be expected to teach effectively in this day and age working off paper printouts?
airy fairy wrote: » Here's a novel idea. Teachers go to the workplace, all perfectly social distant from each other, one per classroom, and use the schools internet! Pupils without tablets etc can most probably borrow the schools one, especially now seeing as €10m has been allocated for schools to purchase same. I've primary and secondary kids. Support all round has been poor.
airy fairy wrote: » Here's a novel idea. Teachers go to the workplace, all perfectly social distant from each other, one per classroom, and use the schools internet! Pupils without tablets etc can most probably borrow the schools one, especially now seeing as €10m been allocated for schools to purchase same. I've primary and secondary kids. Support all round has been poor.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Incase you missed the announcement but we aren't allowed inside the doors by order of the government. As for children borrowing school iPads, do you actually think schools have 'one for everyone in the audience'? How much equipment do you think €10m actually buys? Also do you actually think parents would pay for the school equipment that would inevitably be damaged and/or broken at home? As it is we can't get parents to pay for the replacement of book rental books that their children lose.
airy fairy wrote: » I'm sure that teachers getting to work can be classified as essential, that's not a hard one to overcome! .
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Actually it isn't classified as essential for travel purposes. Friend of mine has really bad broadband. They cannot access the books online due to this. They asked the principal could they access the school and the principal directed them to the circular from the government stating that no access allowed. They also went to the local Garda station who also confirmed that it isn't allowed under the current circumstances.
khalessi wrote: » Most teachers are working very hard but parents need to contact the teacher, to tell them if there is enough work or too much.
airy fairy wrote: » I'm sure that teachers getting to work can be classified as essential, that's not a hard one to overcome! Most kids will have access to a laptop, PC or otherwise for an hour or two a day. It's not a huge expense in the grand scheme of things, the dept has made it clear more minutes will be provided if necessary. I could easily put the weeks work for my kids together in 10 minutes for the coming week. During the start of schools closing is parents just continued with the next chapters in books etc.
teachinggal123 wrote: » Teachers are claiming “most” of them are working very hard. From my experience this is simply not true. Parents experience on this thread also not supporting this. SOME teachers are working hard. A very large majority are not, and a significant minority are doing nothing at all.
heldel00 wrote: » That is a very unfortunate circumstance that those parents are in, and I'm sure it's the same in many houses up and down the country. I really do feel sorry for families like that. You ask for flexibility from the teachers? Just curious as to what you mean by this? Is it just their particular teachers/ school?
pwurple wrote: » Flexibility is finding some method of communicating. My daughters teacher says the terms of her contract means she works in the classroom only. As a result of that, it's radio silence for the past 43 days on schooling for my eldest. I don't operate in a vacuum, I've contacted my friends and pulled some worksheets from other schools etc. but that's what I mean by a lack of flexibility. Circumstances are hard all round, a gesture towards making an effort would be appreciated.
pwurple wrote: » My daughters teacher says the terms of her contract means she works in the classroom only. As a result of that, it's radio silence for the past 43 days on schooling for my eldest.
teachinggal123 wrote: » I know a lot of teachers who have the exact same attitude. Radio silence for the last 40+ days and no intention of doing anything. Also, lots of other excuses like no laptop, poor broadband, no place to work from home, minding children etc etc etc. You can see some teachers making these excuses on this thread.
History Queen wrote: » As I'm sure you are aware posting your opinion as if it were fact does not make it so. Some teachers are working, some are not, that is indisputable. The amount in either group is currently completely unverifiable.
teachinggal123 wrote: » I suggest that all parents (also students) keep a detailed record of the exact level of contact they have from each teacher. This should include material sent out, meetings held, homework corrected, emails responded to, etc. Keep a similar record of contact from the school principal. Parents can then contact a variety of people/bodies if they feel the teacher has underperformed, and will have proof to back up their claims. They can contact the following to complain about underperformance: The school principal The school board of management The ETB The Teaching Council The Dept. of Education Local politicians and the media (Joe Duffy anyone?) if all else fails Teachers might be enjoying the sun and "on holidays" now, but I think there will be consequences when things get back to normal. There is already a huge amount of public opinion against the way some teachers are not performing. Maybe there will be no consequences (my own colleagues think this) but I think there will have to be.
runawaybishop wrote: » Both groups are being paid though. A friend of mine is working flat out, doing both her school work and minding her own kids. Another teacher i know has no barriers to her working and is feet up all day.
Caledonia wrote: » As the teacher said in Irish Times re colleagues ‘if you don’t have a laptop can I suggest you buy one’
Dravokivich wrote: » You expect people to be able to afford to just go and buy a laptop? If my job told me to do.that, I'd have to explain I didn't have the money to.
Geuze wrote: » Poor broadband is a reasonable excuse in rural Ireland, although note that Eircom run rural FTTH past 320,000 houses.
