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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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BanditLuke

gauchesnell wrote: »

folks - I have been following this thread with interest but I am confused.

What the hell is happening on May 5th. Have I missed something. Has something been announced

Nothing is happening. One poster thinks it's Xmas part 2 for some reason.

Lillyfae

hmmm wrote: »

Netherlands is re-opening primary schools in May
https://nos.nl/artikel/2331227-kabinet-basisscholen-per-11-mei-weer-open-andere-maatregelen-verlengd.html

It’s not that simple. Children will go to daycare/ primary in 2 groups, each for half of the week. We still have to work from home where possible. Outdoor sports activities for under 12s will also be allowed, for over 12s allowed with distancing measures in place.

gauchesnell

BanditLuke wrote: »

Nothing is happening. One poster thinks it's Xmas part 2 for some reason.

ha ha thanks. I am working from home so this is the most confusing thread I have ever encountered.

VonLuck

BanditLuke wrote: »

Nothing is happening. One poster thinks it's Xmas part 2 for some reason.

Well technically you don't know that yet. Current measures are in place until May the 5th. They may be relaxed somewhat. Then again they may not.

Hubertj

lord quackinton wrote: »

Did you read the article I linked
Have you read Goldman Sachs latest report
Have you read about what is happening oil
what is going to happen our economy will be the biggest economic shock since records began
Bigger than 2008 and 2008 saw Lehman’s brothers collapse and that alone nearly collapsed everything

I get it some people think this is good and we can remake our economies to be more fairer and just which is the Biggest load of BS and these people are so gullible
All that happens in depressions are the divide between the haves and have nots gets bigger

If we are running a large deficit then the state has 2 choices tax or cuts
This time unlike 2008 the state will have to introduce huge cuts aswell as increasing taxes

That means the pension and carers and jobseekers and disability will need cutting
The deficit will be so large we will have no choice
I expect public expenditure on council housing and rent allowance to be slashed
Working people will not accept taxes this time and no cuts to the dole
There will be war if that happened

And you forget about Germany bailing us out - if anything what is ahead of us could see the break up of the European Union
Cast your minds back to 2008 and the years that followed and how that period nearly ended Europe Union - this is considerably worse and while people will Argue there is no banking crisis this time, they are wrong because the housing market is going to collapse
Pay cuts will come and extra taxes will come and people will stop paying their mortgages and will be swimming in negative equity

You say we have put in a serious firebreak and pragmatism is needed and less of the crazy US debate
You have it wrong - what is needed is for people like you who agree with the current crisis plan to wake the **** up

I think you need to talk to someone. Does your employer have an EAP? They provide phone services so you could speak with someone. Having this level of paranoia, delusion and hysteria is unhealthy.
You need to take care of yourself and I don’t think boards is the ideal place to do that.

gauchesnell

VonLuck wrote: »

Well technically you don't know that yet. Current measures are in place until May the 5th. They may be relaxed somewhat. Then again they may not.

Yes agree some relaxation hopefully. I kept reading May 5th as some major day for something so I though something was announced.

It reads like people are in prison or something?

Irish Aris

gauchesnell wrote: »

Yes agree some relaxation hopefully. I kept reading May 5th as some major day for something so I though something was announced.

It reads like people are in prison or something?

well, certainly not prison - nevertheless a big change in the everyday life of many of us.

FintanMcluskey

BanditLuke wrote: »

And just when we're bouncing back Brexit will kick us squarely in the balls.

Thats it, chin up

Spanish Eyes

What do those in the traps really want?

Silly now if they think everything will re open and life will go on as before on May 6th. But that is youth for ya, they are invincible.

It will be slow and measured. Get used to it.

Youth of today have never had to deal with this, good feckkin lesson. IMV.

gauchesnell

Irish Aris wrote: »

well, certainly not prison - nevertheless a big change in the everyday life of many of us.

of course I am feeling it myself - I never in my life wanted to go home so badly but cant.

But thankfully I am healthy and am able to support my local business and will continue to do so while I can.

I truly do admire the businesses that have diversified though. Amazing.

FintanMcluskey

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Youth of today have never had to deal with this, good feckkin lesson. IMV.

Neither did anyone under the age of 102

jester77

Lillyfae wrote: »

It’s not that simple. Children will go to daycare/ primary in 2 groups, each for half of the week. We still have to work from home where possible. Outdoor sports activities for under 12s will also be allowed, for over 12s allowed with distancing measures in place.

Similar as Germany. Classes split, no bigger than 15, half go on Mon/Wed/Fri, other half Tue/Thu/Sat. Staggered breaks, masks are mandatory for children over 4.

the kelt

gauchesnell wrote: »

Yes agree some relaxation hopefully. I kept reading May 5th as some major day for something so I though something was announced.

It reads like people are in prison or something?

To be fair I think a lot of it comes from Leo Varadkar who referenced May 5th as a big day if he like

“What we’re working on at the moment is a plan that will be ready by the end of April-early May in advance of the May 5th big day if you like. And what we hope to set out is a step-wise plan which indicates how we would reopen the country in different steps and what are the criteria that would have to be met to move from one stage to the next.”

Irish Times

It’s obvious we are probably easing restrictions unless the sh1t hits the fan over the next 2 weeks but as to what those easing will be is pure speculation.

One group thinks this is a bad idea and we are all going to die, the other group thinks this is great news and time to party. They then pretty much spend most of the thread trying to “trigger” the other group which is pretty much where the thread has gone whereas the vast majority of people just want to discuss the actual possible restrictions being eased etc and what they means going forward whilst acknowledging the possible issues on both sides.

growleaves

Youth of today have never had to deal with this

Neither has anyone else. During the 1957 pandemic which killed 2 million people the extent of the closures in this country was the shuttering of 17 schools in South Dublin.

JRant

jester77 wrote: »

Similar as Germany. Classes split, no bigger than 15, half go on Mon/Wed/Fri, other half Tue/Thu/Sat. Staggered breaks, masks are mandatory for children over 4.

Saturdays, that would be some craic trying to implement here

The comrades in the trade unions would explode at the mere mention of it.

Cork Boy 53

BanditLuke wrote: »

Nothing is happening. One poster thinks it's Xmas part 2 for some reason.

There are more than one who have this notion in their heads.

Spanish Eyes

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Neither did anyone under the age of 102

Time to mature up and forget about pubs concerts gigs and the like.

Meeting with family and friends with distancing would be so great now. That's what I want.

BanditLuke

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

There are more than one who have this notion in their heads.

Leave them to it. Pointless at this stage.

Irish Aris

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Time to mature up and forget about pubs concerts gigs and the like.

Meeting with family and friends with distancing would be so great now. That's what I want.

I think this is what most of us want!!!

KrustyUCC

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Time to mature up and forget about pubs concerts gigs and the like.

Meeting with family and friends with distancing would be so great now. That's what I want.

100%

Only so long you can go without seeing friends, family, those in relationships not living together etc

Lillyfae

jester77 wrote: »

Similar as Germany. Classes split, no bigger than 15, half go on Mon/Wed/Fri, other half Tue/Thu/Sat. Staggered breaks, masks are mandatory for children over 4.

Details haven’t been ironed out here yet, teachers etc found out when we did so they’ve 3 weeks to voice any concerns. The May holiday falls next week for 2 weeks anyway.

Do you mean masks for adults working with children over 4 or for the children? I don’t see how that would be feasible...

ZX7R

Galway races plan to go ahead behind closed doors

growleaves

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Time to mature up and forget about pubs concerts gigs and the like.

Meeting with family and friends with distancing would be so great now. That's what I want.

Mature up?

Young people might like to form families and they can't do that if they can't meet someone. It isn't as immature as it might seem on reflection. There are women whose biological clock is ticking for one thing.

Spanish Eyes

KrustyUCC wrote: »

100%

Only so long you can go without seeing friends, family, those in relationships not living together etc

Indeed, that is what is important at the end of the day, and for me it is painful.

Pubs and all that craic is not on my radar, but I want to see my family. But will observe the rules for the moment tough as it is.

jester77

Lillyfae wrote: »

Details haven’t been ironed out here yet, teachers etc found out when we did so they’ve 3 weeks to voice any concerns. The May holiday falls next week for 2 weeks anyway.

Do you mean masks for adults working with children over 4 or for the children? I don’t see how that would be feasible...

For everyone over 4 years old, will be mandatory from next Monday when in enclosed places.

mandrake04

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

id like to see how the government word this in 2 weeks time,every businesses owner in the country is in a greyhound trap waiting for it to open, if the government leave this open to interpretation the hare will let loose then May 5th everything will be open, bar Pubs,Hotels,Cinema.

That simply won’t happen, if there is any easement of restrictions is going be low risk first and slow stages so people’s behaviour can monitored. Opening pubs/Bars they know everyone is going get leathered and any social distancing is gone be forgot about after the 2nd Pint.

Stark

jester77 wrote: »

For everyone over 4 years old, will be mandatory from next Monday when in enclosed places.

Source?

Cork Boy 53

ZX7R wrote: »

Galway races plan to go ahead behind closed doors

Not surprised about this. Race meetings were still going ahead right up to the time when the current restrictions were implemented after virtually all other sport had stopped activities of their own accord. The racing authorities seem to consider themselves as more important than other sporting bodies.

jester77

Stark wrote: »

Source?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mopo.de/hamburg/maskenpflicht-in-hamburg-welche-masken-sie-brauchen---und-wer-die-regeln-kontrolliert-36586066

VonLuck

Stark wrote: »

Source?

Think they're referring to Germany in case you were thinking Ireland.