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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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[Deleted User]

normanoffside wrote: »

Just don't be licking other people's golf balls and you should be fine.

But it’s perfectly ok to play with his wood.

VonLuck

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

It's not about that individual getting infected.

It's about how many other people they go on to infect if they do contract the virus.

It certainly is about that individual getting infected, from a personal perspective. Undoubtedly the safety of friends and family are going to take priority for everyone before they think about the countrywide effects.

skallywag

Spencer Brown wrote: »

The crowd isn't going to be that big if a stadium is half full.

How do you propose keeping the players apart from each other?

Breezin

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

He's not. It's a spoof account.

If so, it's very well played.

Credibly close to some of those reveling in the restrictions.

KrustyUCC

skallywag wrote: »

How do you propose keeping the players apart from each other?

That's a very difficult one

Would involve rapid tests I would think

Some hopefully positive steps on that direction in South Wales

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-coronavirus-test-takes-only-21896397.amp

robbiezero

pjohnson wrote: »

Its always the same people creating these mythical opponents :pac:

Like the mythical people who want their elderly relations to die in order to get their inheritance that you keep raving about?

Or the mythical "open-uppers" who view big groups of travellers at a funeral as "legends"?

is_that_so

KrustyUCC wrote: »

That's a very difficult one

Would involve rapid tests I would think

Some hopefully positive steps on that direction in South Wales

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-coronavirus-test-takes-only-21896397.amp

There have been lots of great hopes in this so far and unfortunately an awful lot of bravado and failures too.

normanoffside

is_that_so wrote: »

There have been lots of great hopes in this so far and unfortunately an awful lot of bravado and failures too.

There is already some kind of Similar Test which Emirates us using to screen passengers boarding flights

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/15/834999076/emirates-airlines-begins-conducting-rapid-covid-19-tests-for-boarding-passengers?t=1587471042394

lord quackinton

May 5th this all ends
Big events like concerts and sport events will not go ahead until maybe September
But no publican Or hotelier or cafe/restaurant owner is going to remain closed long term especially since the insurance providers have denied their claims
It’s not going to happen
Schools will open September, the one snag is the teacher unions will use this crisis to get more money and more control but they like all public sector unions MUST be stood up to
Threaten their pensions and retirement age and that should quieten them

As of today rural dwellers please go visit family and friends for a walk in the woods
Have a picnic
Life must go on and to quote George Wootton we must endeavour to persevere

robinph

lord quackinton wrote: »

May 5th this all ends
Big events like concerts and sport events will not go ahead until maybe September
But no publican Or hotelier or cafe/restaurant owner is going to remain closed long term especially since the insurance providers have denied their claims
It’s not going to happen
Schools will open September, the one snag is the teacher unions will use this crisis to get more money and more control but they like all public sector unions MUST be stood up to
Threaten their pensions and retirement age and that should quieten them

As of today rural dwellers please go visit family and friends for a walk in the woods
Have a picnic
Life must go on and to quote George Wootton we must endeavour to persevere

Explain how big mass attended events are going to go ahead in September, or if that is too tricky how about how does a city centre pub open any time soon?

Rural pubs with one man and their dog can open sooner, but no busy city centre pubs.

easypazz

robinph wrote: »

Explain how big mass attended events are going to go ahead in September, or if that is too tricky how about how does a city centre pub open any time soon?

Rural pubs with one man and their dog can open sooner, but no busy city centre pubs.

Reduced capacity, seating only, beer gardens, extra partitions between sections.

No hanging around at the counter.

Its not rocket science.

facehugger99

robbiezero wrote: »

Like the mythical people who want their elderly relations to die in order to get their inheritance that you keep raving about?

Or the mythical "open-uppers" who view big groups of travellers at a funeral as "legends"?

Don't forget about the parents who hate having to spend time with their children.

Some spoofer.

seamus

easypazz wrote: »

Reduced capacity, seating only, beer gardens, extra partitions between sections.

No hanging around at the counter.

Its not rocket science.

More robust testing regimes and public consciousness will also make a considerable difference. When people learn to self-isolate and can get a test result in 48 hours instead of five days, then allowing people to mix indoors will be less of an issue.

As much as the "it's just another cold/flu" calls have to be derided, we have existed with diseases forever. The more of a grip we get on this disease - diagnosing it, treating it, etc. - the less we can freak out about it.

[Deleted User]

lord quackinton wrote: »

May 5th this all ends ......

No, and you outline cases where it won't yourself.

skallywag

easypazz wrote: »

Reduced capacity, seating only, beer gardens, extra partitions between sections.

No hanging around at the counter.

Its not rocket science.

Sounds good in theory buy how are going to get people in and out and still obey the distancing? It could be extremely difficult.

Thelonious Monk

easypazz wrote: »

Reduced capacity, seating only, beer gardens, extra partitions between sections.

No hanging around at the counter.

Its not rocket science.

It just wouldn't be worth their while opening with these kind of restrictions, especially rural pubs which barely hang on as is.

KrustyUCC

is_that_so wrote: »

There have been lots of great hopes in this so far and unfortunately an awful lot of bravado and failures too.

True that

Still hopefully they can get it right

Would be great to reduce the testing time

KrustyUCC

'We are starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel' - Consultant on COVID-19

https://www.newstalk.com/news/starting-see-light-end-tunnel-consultant-covid-19-1003157

I would encourage everybody to stick to the restrictions

I know they're hard and really grating on people but let's keep the numbers going in a better direction

easypazz

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

It just wouldn't be worth their while opening with these kind of restrictions, especially rural pubs which barely hang on as is.

Why?

It would have to be done in tandem with reduced rates, insurance, sky sports etc. etc.

You point about rural pubs is self defeating, they are not busy enough to have to worry about it anyway according to you.

Its only the doomsday merchants who keep saying "it won't be worth it" and purely out of spite that business might be starting to reopen soon.

And it is a temporary measure for pubs, who knows what testing / vaccine / treatment will be in place in the winter.

[Deleted User]

robinph wrote: »

Explain how big mass attended events are going to go ahead in September, or if that is too tricky how about how does a city centre pub open any time soon?

Rural pubs with one man and their dog can open sooner, but no busy city centre pubs.

But they can’t stay shut until a vaccine because a vaccine might never arrive. So whether May, September, next January or June or whenever it is, they will reopen (or what’s left of them). Why single out pubs? How is social distancing on Grafton street at 1pm on a sunny Saturday afternoon going to be enforced? Or any crowd, or indeed players, at a sports match? Or a big family wedding? Or dating, for that matter? All these things will resume at some stage in the absence of a vaccine.

This is never going away. We will live with it, and hopefully treatment will continue to get better over coming weeks and months

easypazz

skallywag wrote: »

Sounds good in theory buy how are going to get people in and out and still obey the distancing? It could be extremely difficult.

Through the doors.:rolleyes:

easypazz

Deleted User wrote: »

But they can’t stay shut until a vaccine because a vaccine might never arrive. So whether May, September, next January or June or whenever it is, they will reopen (or what’s left of them). Why single out pubs? How is social distancing on Grafton street at 1pm on a sunny Saturday afternoon going to be enforced? Or any crowd, or indeed players, at a sports match? Or a big family wedding? Or dating, for that matter? All these things will resume at some stage in the absence of a vaccine.

This is never going away. We will live with it, and hopefully treatment will continue to get better over coming weeks and months

Because the lockdown merchants know that if pubs open, even with partial capacity, everything is "kind of" back to normal as they will be one of the last things to open.

skallywag

easypazz wrote: »

Through the doors.:rolleyes:

Have you ever been to a football match? Or a concert at a stadium?

skallywag

Deleted User wrote: »

Why single out pubs?

You cannot reasonably expect people to keep to social distancing in a pub environment where alcohol is being consumed en masse.

I am sick to the teeth of it now as much as everyone else, but I have resigned myself to the fact that pubs opening will be one of if not the last thing to return.

castletownman

Why single out pubs?

Because they are a den of inequity, and drinking alcohol is the devil's pastime.

And everyone who enjoys going to one is clearly an alcoholic.

pjohnson

facehugger99 wrote: »

Don't forget about the parents who hate having to spend time with their children.

Some spoofer.

Forgot your own posts again huggy :pac:

DeVore

castletownman wrote: »

Why single out pubs?

Because they are a den of inequity, and drinking alcohol is the devil's pastime.

And everyone who enjoys going to one is clearly an alcoholic.

I think because of the long periods of pretty close quarters. Pubs in towns and cities will be heaving with people trying to get to the bar

pjohnson

DeVore wrote: »

I think because of the long periods of pretty close quarters. Pubs in towns and cities will be heaving with people trying to get to the bar

The people desperate to get pubs open seem incredibly unaware of how pubs function.

easypazz

skallywag wrote: »

Have you ever been to a football match? Or a concert at a stadium?

They play football matches in pubs now?:rolleyes:

Spanish Eyes

It could be great gas altogether re the pubs.

Book a socially distanced table via an app, no standing or going to the bar.

Staff behind screens, no table service. Self service on a conveyor belt like the sushi shops. The app will tell you when your drinks are ready like Wetherspoons! Tap card only.

One hour only in a pub, one person at a time in the toilets.

A fine for the publican if gathering within the 2m zone happens except for the group at the table. Those on their own sit outside.

Ah I'm just thinking out loud and having a laugh. Any other suggestions?