McMurphy wrote: » So that means the numbers reported over the weekend were actually higher?
all about the mane wrote: » Not according to the WHO.
aido79 wrote: » Not necessarily. Example...If a person becomes ill with suspected covid19 they get tested but the results take 2 weeks to come back. However the person dies before the test result comes back. The date of their death will not be the same day as the date reported as a covid19 death.
markodaly wrote: » And they are back, peddling fake stats..https://twitter.com/PadraigMacL/status/1251802785445806082 I suppose that's is all they are good for. Shooting tweets from the sidelines.
tipptom wrote: » I think they have done okay and have made made decisions that was better than a lot of other governments but it was mostly down to the experts in the background.Bad decision from Holohan on the nursing homes when they should have been locked down to visitors.
blanch152 wrote: » Eoin O’Broin has had to delete two tweets in the last 24 hours because he didn’t understand how to calculate current costs. Had it explained to him but he still didn’t get it. Funny how the SF thread then got taken over by posts about Covid-19 numbers.
McMurphy wrote: » Some aspects they've done ok, others not so much. 77 deaths today is on par with Italy's highest death toll in a single day.
markodaly wrote: » I thought one of the biggest issues were elderly residents returning to the care homes from the hospital, and some of them brought the virus with them. Of course, things are not rosy in the North either.https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/coronavirus-northern-ireland-53-care-18116064 And the UK are engaged in a lot of massaging of the figures, something I am sure SF will point out Anyway, nursing homes seem to be ground zero in pretty much every country. Did anyone hear the story of the issue in the Montreal nursing home, that left 31 dead?https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0418/1132381-covid-montreal-care-home/
markodaly wrote: » 77 deaths vs 919..... yea on par alright. Besides, trying to make political hay or capital about people dying, is kinda sick and twisted. Its low form.
McMurphy wrote: » 77 deaths population of 5 million 919 deaths population 60 million In fact if we get 77 deaths in a single day, that would give us an even worse daily death toll than Italy has had this far. Do the maths yourself.
smurgen wrote: » I curious as to how everytime we reach a new horrible high the numbers all of a sudden are called unreliable or something else is factoring in. Surely is the 77 includes previous day data then the days before the 77 include previous day data also?
tikkahunter wrote: » Exactly , same as reported cases . I was told I was positive yesterday but I was tested on the 26th 10 days after my initial symptoms, I got my results from the UCD lab so the official HSE ones might be in the next day or two. My positive result will go down for the day it’s confirmed even though it’s a month since I was first sick and over it by a 1/2 month. It’s the delay in confirmation, this is new to everyone involved and everyday is a learning day with this virus. Our figures would not be that bad but for the nursing homes but unfortunately that area has been a disaster and mistakes where made.
McMurphy wrote: » 77 deaths population of 5 million 919 deaths population 60 millionIn fact if we get 77 deaths in a single day, that would give us an even worse daily death toll than Italy has had this far. Do the maths yourself.
markodaly wrote: » You do know as has been pointed out to you that those 77 deaths did not occur in a single day. It has been pointed out to you, you have acknowledged this, yet you persist in the fear-mongering and fake facts. My maths is fine, but your own stance in jumping on figures to make some political point truly tells us what type of person you are.
McMurphy wrote: » The 77 deaths all over the news yesterday, if they happened over a 24hr period, well them that puts us on par with the Italians on a population scale.
markodaly wrote: » Yes, IF it happened, so its a good thing it didn't.
Colonel Claptrap wrote: » But he wrote the book on housing!! Anyway, here comes 10 more pages on how to interpret covid numbers...in a Sinn Fein thread.
markodaly wrote: » If my aunt had balls she would be a 3-legged bull elephant. SF logic!
McMurphy wrote: » New figures were released Fri, Sat and Sunday. New figures were also released on Monday, but they are saying they were numbers reported, not that they necessarily happened in 24 hrs from what I can gather. Which throws the other daily death reports into jeopardy too, because them 77 (if not earlier reported) have not been factored in on other days. The 77 deaths all over the news yesterday, if they happened over a 24hr period, well them that puts us on par with the Italians on a population scale. It was actually explained further up the thread by bishop of hope, and still the party faithfuls aren't getting it, as mark and others have done before him have just muttered something about 77 v 919
aido79 wrote: » Nothing has changed. The deaths have always been called reported deaths. The deaths may or may not have occurred in the preceding 24 hours. This might help you understand it a bit better:https://www.rte.ie/amp/1132271/ You are comparing apples with oranges in the Ireland v Italy figures. You aren't taking into account things such as population density which is a big factor in the worst hit areas globally. Italy is more densely populated than Ireland.
McMurphy wrote: » If the same aunt developed pleurisy in her lung as a result of covid 19 would she still have been expected to show her face to the public and work away from home less she be berated as not having a great work ethic is the more pertinent question though.
McMurphy wrote: » Which arguably makes our figure's more concerning.
smurgen wrote: » So they days previous to the 77 were less than what actually happened. But on the day of the 77, there would have been deaths occuring on that day not also counted.
aido79 wrote: » I'm not really sure why you're having difficulty with this but maybe read the article again and take a better look at the graph of actual deaths v deaths reported to NPHE as covid19 deaths. Take for example on the 16th of April there were 13 actual deaths but 42 reported deaths. Due to delays in results through testing or autopsies the actual deaths will never match the reported deaths.
