BanditLuke wrote: » No, deaths are the only true indicator of how we are doing. A ramping up of enforcement is needed countrywide but especially in the Dublin region.
easypazz wrote: » Agreed, it would save so many lives in nursing homes.
awec wrote: » We need to sort out our reporting of deaths because it seems no matter how many times it's explained, some people are just not understanding what the numbers mean.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Exactly it's not real time. Tony even stated not to read into them. I'm surprised they don't know in the morning who died today, seems the HSE is lacking in basic daily reports.
castletownman wrote: » There is only such a clamour for schools to open because a lot of mammies who mollycoddle their chaps can't seem to formulate any way to keep them up to date with their school lessons. I bet their wine o'clock schedule has been affected too. Have classes via zoom. It will be a novelty that children might actually enjoy. In theory, the spacing out of classrooms seems fine, but in practise it could be a ticking time-bomb. Crowd control of pubs, particularly during the day, and especially in rural areas, is a lot more doable. Most older gentlemen avoid the pub later in the evening when it gets crowded anyway.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Ireland was ahead of the UK in terms of racting and instigating a lockdown. Germany is the second-best country to handle the virus at the moment. Less than 2500 cases a day for most of the last ten weeks or so and the active case number has dropped by 20,000. In any case, lockdowns in Germany (bar Bavaria) havent been as sevear in Ireland. Berliners can go about the city as the wish as long as they don't do it in groups.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » What numbers are you looking at? As far as I can see the cases dropped yesterday and isn't all that hight today. Number of deaths doesn't really tell you anything as they're people who will have been infected previously, possibly up to two weeks ago.
Enter name here wrote: » Exactly, we now need to ramp up and obviously fines are not a deterrent. Time to issue all gardi with tasers and large sticks forget the fines if you are caught breaking restrictions you are beat to within a heart beat of your last breath. Maybe then the message will start to get through to you idiots.
BanditLuke wrote: » Shocking numbers today. As I said last week the lacklustre attitudes of some and absense of enforcement of the soft lockdown is going to cost us all big time. Still no wearing of masks whilst outside not compulsory is a farce. Chances of withdrawal of restrictions over the first 2 weeks of May is now very unlikely.
Deleted User wrote: » or is it, that measures were put in place but they just weren't enough? I know some measures were put in place such as banning visitors some time in March but even then, that was probably too late- and of course, training and the proper protective clothing should have been provided to staff working in the homes.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Not just restrictions for the most vulnerable groups. A repeat of what is in place now the only difference being stricter enforcement of the rules.
Idbatterim wrote: » Germany and their usual best practice? maybe, doubtful though. Wont they mimic everything the uk does, that all they ever seem to do!
Idbatterim wrote: » Prominent doctor, appointed by Simon Harris to medical board, resigns over coronavirus crisis in nursing homeshttps://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/prominent-doctor-appointed-by-simon-harris-to-medical-board-resigns-over-coronavirus-crisis-in-nursing-homes-39141161.html If any of you thought the bloody fools we have in charge here and responsible for the **** everything here, changed over night once the virus hit! LOL! Give it another few months, I'd say there will be war over their handling of this. From the nursing homes, to having no plan, other than to shut everything down!
ixoy wrote: » I imagine they'll look to how Germany and others are faring with their easing of lockdowns. And I am quite okay with that approach.
road_high wrote: » I predict a lot of these experts will be coming to the surface now the horse has bolted- I never heard of him before now, why wasn't he screaming this from the rooftops at the time if he knew it was the incorrect course of action?
is_that_so wrote: » How can it spread if it's not there?
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Not just the most vulnerable groups. A repeat of what is in place now the only difference being stricter enforcement of the rules.
polesheep wrote: » Cocooning of the vulnerable. The very thing that should have happened as a priority this time around.