Teach30 wrote: » Yea I dont want my students knowing I live at home with my parents. The noise levels they create make it an unsuitable area for streaming from. Just like us all the students will have to cope. Resilience is a key feature of wellbeing and this is a great time to work on that. Nothing wrong with using email to assist in remote learning, they can ask their parents/guardians for help if they need to and I’m only an email away if they have questions.
witchgirl26 wrote: » I think it's a very different thing for primary & secondary school to be honest. Can you imagine trying to organise 30 junior infants on a video call? Not a hope! My sister has 2 in primary school & they get sent the stuff to do at the start of the week. However they wouldn't be able to do any video conferencing. The only laptop in the house is her work one which she can't download anything to as it's very locked down. They don't own an ipad and she also needs her phone for calls during work. So how on earth is she meant to facilitate video conferencing for her 2 kids in different classes? She can't afford to go & buy them tablets or laptops. The school they go to recognise that parents have different circumstances and respect that. They're giving them things that parents can do with the kids and asking for the main parts to be emailed back where possible.
beggars_bush wrote: » They're paid a salary, not based on hours
HerrKuehn wrote: » if they did that there would be others complaining that all the relevant stakeholders were not consulted. There is no way to win.
beggars_bush wrote: » Could be solved in the morning if department issues guidelines to schools that teachers and schools must provide some sort of schedule of work and a way to review it
teachinggal123 wrote: » Teacher here. I'm going to be totally honest and say that very few of my colleagues are doing anything at all. They have used all the excuses already mentioned in this thread ... no laptop/broadband, GDPR, no "official" school policy, no training, etc etc etc. The principal supports this as he is mid-50's and not at all computer literate. There is some contact with exam classes from some teachers but nothing significant. Other teachers have made no contact whatsoever since 12 March. Some others have made a bit of effort to email homework, but are now saying in our WhatsApp group that they are stopping this for various reasons (one of the main ones being "why work now if we are going to be made do "extra" hours in the Summer"). My nephews/nieces in primary school receive one email at the beginning of the week (from the main school email a/c) with suggested work. There is no other contact outside of that. All teachers are uncontactable and have not responded to emails sent (although last 2 weeks were Easter holidays). I said all of this on another thread and got attacked by other teachers trawling through my post history and saying I must be in a **** school. I'll probably get attacked again now, but I'm being honest and telling the truth. I also have a lot of friends from other schools and they are also doing nothing or the absolute minimum. The fact is that many, many teachers won't do any of this online stuff (in my experience this is the vast majority). The simple reason is that they don't have to and there will be no consequences. It'll all be dismissed as "anti-teacher ranting" or the "usual teacher bashing" if anyone questions this attitude. Hard to say all that as a teacher, but it is the truth.
gnf_ireland wrote: » Yes you are right. So much depends on the school and the culture supported by the principal. This is no different with most jobs - some are very proactive around remote working and others think it’s a means for employees to go missing. Hope you all manage during this window with the new family addition. It cannot be easy given the circumstances
thegetawaycar wrote: » As much as some teachers are doing great work and making lots of effort it's few and far between. I'm not sure why the department haven't extended the school year to November and then start the next year in January and hope to get back to the current timetable in 2 years time. Young kids need the face to face time, if teachers are saying they can catch up next year then what about the students who struggle? And if 3 or 4 months of school can be caught up on in 1 year (9 or 10 months class time) then really the curriculum needs to be reviewed as it's not taxing enough. A lot of parents would be pissed as they'd miss the holidays in Summer but really the education is more important and a month off over Christmas and then start the new school year mid January would be possible. I'm sure the unions would be pissed but the teachers are paid based on the hours they are providing over a full year so it shouldn't be an issue.
The Bishop Basher wrote: » Well they’re going to have to figure it out. Times have changed for the foreseeable future.
Coralcoras wrote: » Wife of Secondary level teacher. Currently giving him space in the kitchen so he can get work uploaded to google classroom. He’s saying this is so much harder than going into the classroom. He’ll be available for emails. I think the difference here is the principal. She’s quite proactive about online activity - it has been this way even before the lockdown.
noodler wrote: God all I've been reading is how teachers were doing full days
sasta le wrote: » Have ye only 2 rooms?
lawred2 wrote: » Well the principal of our school sends regular circulars applauding her teachers for all the work they are doing behind the scenes at this time... so she's more than happy with the least possible being done
Jim Root wrote: » A few teachers really embarrassing themselves on this thread. They shouldn't be getting full pay during this period. Fair play to those that have adapted.
JustAThought wrote: » they are being paid salary to do so - it is not a volunteer group or charity - some level of quality, quality control by the principles and standard inspection is expected.
[Deleted User] wrote: » There is no policies in place to have education operational remotely. I don't think there ever will be either as there are too many variables at play. Do all students have broadband and hardware? Do Teachers? What age groups can be expected to maturely take part? Who pays for it if the answers are no to the above. Schools should stay closed to September, with maybe the exception of Leaving Cert. Primary school students can be left alone, they'll catch back up next term. Secondary school students are old enough to know better. They can revise what they've learned this year and read on if they want. There is no point in teachers dishing out lots of homework just to be seen as doing something.
s1ippy wrote: » I actually had a parent ring me just before the mid term and basically fúck me out of it because apparently the list of (entirely optional) work was too much. I had to just go "OK, OK, yeah, no problem" while she went on a 40 minute tirade about how they only have one computer and her child is under pressure. I emphasised a few times that the work is more to keep the kids busy and that I highlight the things they really should be doing each day and she would start yelling at me again that her child was upset that he wasn't getting it done. She basically bullied me down the phone for three quarters of an hour and demanded that I give less work. I put out a survey and her opinion was largely not shared by the other parents, who understood that the work was optional and were happy that their child be given it as an option. They also said that they were happy when the way the content was delivered. So now I'm in a position where I have to deliver the whole curriculum but one vindictive parent has a huge issue and might try and f me over if I put a foot out of line somehow. That definitely doesn't instil confidence in me about recording videos or doing a live chat. This morning I'm online like I am every evil morning to deal with anything they need and there are no students here, as has happened almost all times after a break. But I'll stick around to respond to messages until break. Oh and there's the parent mentioned emailing me because the work I posted up isn't what she demanded before the break and she wants to control everything. People hate teachers, even other teachers as is evidenced by this thread. I don't know if it's because they had bad experiences in school themselves, begrudgery that they can't do it or they can't control situations... I personally feel like I'm walking a knife edge at all times in this job. Being attacked by the public, your management, parents and sometimes even students. I'm just getting on with things as best I can. If gmf Ireland has a problem they can fly up my hole
s1ippy wrote: » People hate teachers, even other teachers as is evidenced by this thread. I don't know if it's because they had bad experiences in school themselves, begrudgery that they can't do it or they can't control situations... I personally feel like I'm walking a knife edge at all times in this job. Being attacked by the public, your management, parents and sometimes even students. I'm just getting on with things as best I can. If gmf Ireland has a problem they can fly up my hole
touts wrote: » Not all networks allow this. You aren't allowed theather with a three account. They will cancel your account and charge you if you are caught doing this.
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