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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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Cork Boy 53

drunkmonkey wrote: »

We're 2 to 3 years away from a vaccine if any, we don't have one for other covids. We need to accept waiting on a vaccine isn't an option we have now.

Dr Motherway doesn`t agree with your viewpoint.

[Deleted User]

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The lockdown was to give HSE time to increase capacity, I believe they've done that. The trolley crisis had disappeared, health care staff are taking hygine very seriously now along with the general public.
We're going to have to go back to a place where there is accidents and loss of life we can't stay in this perpetual rainy weekend.

Indeed, however it will be via an easing of restrictions. You mention pubs being reopened, that wont happen in May, nor should it.

drunkmonkey

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Dr Catherine Motherway on Sean O Rourke on RTE Radio 1 now saying she expects very limited easing of the restrictions from 5th May and that she is of the opinion that there will be continuous cycles of lockdowns and partial easing until such time as a vaccine is developed.

We're 2 to 3 years away from a vaccine if any, we don't have one for other covids. We need to accept waiting on a vaccine isn't an option we have now.

[Deleted User]

It seems like there's lot's of hysterical humans here with a strong urge to rush to a snap judgement on others.

Breezin

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Or you could just go for a walk instead of wasting all that petrol

Legs are walked off me. Shouldn't we have a choice officer?

Professor Moriarty

JRant wrote: »

Hilarious, I'd say you're some craic at parties. You do realize the majority of COVID cases now are health care workers and nursing/residential homes. Quite stunning really what some people get up to inside their own heads.

Glad you find it funny and thanks for the ad hominem. I just don't hold or go to parties at the moment because I don't want to be part of spreading the infection and killing people. I'm surprised I have to explain this to you.

Cyrus

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Dr Catherine Motherway on Sean O Rourke on RTE Radio 1 now saying she expects very limited easing of the restrictions from 5th May and that she is of the opinion that there will be continuous cycles of lockdowns and partial easing until such time as a vaccine is developed.

and she thinks there will be a vaccine?

drunkmonkey

Augeo wrote: »

But most of us aren't an at risk group, if we all wander around in a carefree manner the transmission rate will rise and the hospitals shall be busier then they are now. Both with covid patients and folk who were in accidents etc.

The lockdown was to give HSE time to increase capacity, I believe they've done that. The trolley crisis had disappeared, health care staff are taking hygine very seriously now along with the general public.
We're going to have to go back to a place where there is accidents and loss of life we can't stay in this perpetual rainy weekend.

JRant

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

It's not that you'd wish the infection on dumbass people attending parties or dumbass people attending funerals, or on their relatives. But to be fair to Covid-19, it usually attacks the selfish and the stupid or their relatives. So, in a way, it's quite fair-minded as viruses go.

Hilarious, I'd say you're some craic at parties. You do realize the majority of COVID cases now are health care workers and nursing/residential homes. Quite stunning really what some people get up to inside their own heads.

Cork Boy 53

Dr Catherine Motherway on Sean O Rourke on RTE Radio 1 now saying she expects very limited easing of the restrictions from 5th May and that she is of the opinion that there will be continuous cycles of lockdowns and partial easing until such time as a vaccine is developed.

cj maxx

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

You think people will respect social distancing rules in beer gardens after 7 pints?

1person at a time at the urinal.
Can't see that working after 7 pints

Thelonious Monk

Deleted User wrote: »

I was just reading about this. How the Hell was it allowed happen?

https://extra.ie/2020/04/19/news/irish-news/convoy-uk-travellers-curragh

“A convoy of 25 families and caravans arrived in Ireland by ferry in the midst of lockdown before making their way to the Curragh in Co. Kildare where they set up camp, the Irish Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Gardaí are ‘actively monitoring’ the situation after receiving numerous complaints about a ‘blatant disregard of the social distancing rules’ among the Travelling community at the camp.

Over the bank holiday weekend, two vans ‘drove straight through’ a Garda checkpoint without stopping and in through the entrance.”

In fairness, what were the Garda supposed to do? They shouldn't have been allowed come here in the first place, British police should have gotten to them before they were getting on ferries.
The Garda would have had nowhere to send them, it's a bloody convoy.
You can't really apply normal rules to these people.

Gael23

If people see case numbers, ICU figures and deaths dropping over the next 2 weeks they won’t accept anything other than a significant loosening of restrictions

[Deleted User]

VonLuck wrote: »

People still don't seem to get why the measures are in place..........

Indeed, it's mad.
The seriousness of Covid19 is lost on so many.

Professor Moriarty

VonLuck wrote: »

People still don't seem to get why the measures are in place. It's not about you or I being "at risk". It's that if you or I catch it, spread it, overwhelm the healthcare system and then put everyone else at risk.

He only cares about himself.

Thelonious Monk

Breezin wrote: »

Sorry Chief Clancy Wiggum, but driving 100km to clear one's head in the current circumstances seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially if you do it on your own.

Or you could just go for a walk instead of wasting all that petrol

[Deleted User]

Ayan Gigantic Laptop wrote: »

It's not just that, the last few days have seen large funerals going ahead and people visiting here from the UK and parking up in convoy in the Curragh - Travellers.

Ignorance and arrogance.

I was just reading about this. How the Hell was it allowed happen?

https://extra.ie/2020/04/19/news/irish-news/convoy-uk-travellers-curragh

“A convoy of 25 families and caravans arrived in Ireland by ferry in the midst of lockdown before making their way to the Curragh in Co. Kildare where they set up camp, the Irish Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Gardaí are ‘actively monitoring’ the situation after receiving numerous complaints about a ‘blatant disregard of the social distancing rules’ among the Travelling community at the camp.

Over the bank holiday weekend, two vans ‘drove straight through’ a Garda checkpoint without stopping and in through the entrance.”

[Deleted User]

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There not an at risk group........

But most of us aren't an at risk group, if we all wander around in a carefree manner the transmission rate will rise and the hospitals shall be busier then they are now. Both with covid patients and folk who were in accidents etc.

VonLuck

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There not an at risk group, life needs to continue. I don't see the old boys heading back soon, they were the first to leave the pubs.

People still don't seem to get why the measures are in place. It's not about you or I being "at risk". It's that if you or I catch it, spread it, overwhelm the healthcare system and then put everyone else at risk.

drunkmonkey

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

You think people will respect social distancing rules in beer gardens after 7 pints?

There not an at risk group, life needs to continue. I don't see the old boys heading back soon, they were the first to leave the pubs.

Breezin

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I know a lot of people's livelihoods are dependent on them, but god am I sick of reading "when will the pubs reopen" every few posts!

How about we restore free movement (with precautions) in the country first? Reading this and similar threads makes it sounds like we have a nation of alcoholics - something I thought we were moving away from.

Agreed. Stopping people getting out and about, even solo, doesn't make sense. And we get this sort of mad Garda enforcement, seemingly for the sake of it - https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-stop-man-on-spin-21893253.

Sorry Chief Clancy Wiggum, but driving 100km to clear one's head in the current circumstances seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially if you do it on your own.

And shutting the Phoenix Park? What's that about? When's the last time, other than when there was a pope about, that you were within 2 metres of another person there?

There are some bizarre policies that need to be looked at as we unpick the lockdown.

Brock Turnpike

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Let the pubs with beer gardens open. Keep the benches apart. Every pup closed for years isn't any kind of solution. Discrimination is going to be key, if your pub can't keep people apart well then you can't open.

You think people will respect social distancing rules in beer gardens after 7 pints?

VonLuck

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Most people have lots there job and are earning less money....but sure let's charge them extra

People who have lost their jobs don't need to go to pubs and restaurants. I would be more concerned with pubs and restaurants closing down and additional jobs being lost.

Quantum Erasure

JoeA3 wrote: »

Simon Harris is getting much too fond of the sound of his own voice imo. Why is he continually feeding the hacks in the likes of the Indo and the Journal sound bytes. He’s popping up everywhere.

There should be one clear message from the powers that be, fed to the national broadcaster and Harris should be keeping his bloody opinions to himself outside of that.

I see a lot giving out about him, what did he say?

the kelt

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I know a lot of people's livelihoods are dependent on them, but god am I sick of reading "when will the pubs reopen" every few posts!

How about we restore free movement (with precautions) in the country first? Reading this and similar threads makes it sounds like we have a nation of alcoholics - something I thought we were moving away from.

To be fair I don’t think it’s because people are mad to get out for a drink or anything.

I think it’s more to do with the timetable of lifting restrictions. Most people recognise that pubs opening and crowds gathering is really going to be one of the last things to be lifted therefore are looking at the last of the restrictions to be lifted and the timescale involved.

Funnily enough though I kinda think pubs might be opened before schools are so schools might be the last restriction to be lifted.

the kelt

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

It's not that you'd wish the infection on dumbass people attending parties or dumbass people attending funerals, or on their relatives. But to be fair to Covid-19, it usually attacks the selfish and the stupid or their relatives. So, in a way, it's quite fair-minded as viruses go.

I had that theory as well, I thought the virus in many ways had a karma side to it especially when Boris Johnson contracted it after boasting about shaking hands in hospitals with Covid patients etc.

I have to say though the fact that both John Waters and Gemma O Doherty have escaped contracting it means I’m beginning to rethink my theory....So Far!

drunkmonkey

Augeo wrote: »

Yup, a large percentage reckon easing of restrictions means pubs opening. It's mad.

Let the pubs with beer gardens open. Keep the benches apart. Every pup closed for years isn't any kind of solution. Discrimination is going to be key, if your pub can't keep people apart well then you can't open.

_Kaiser_

road_high wrote: »

They’re a huge part of Irish social and indeed economic life. Employ a lot of people right down the supply chain.
Of course people will want to discuss it

That's true but it's not what is being discussed. It's all variations on "I miss my pint/I am gonna go on some session after all this!"

I like a pint myself, but being able to go sit in a pub is wayy down on my list of priorities at the moment.

[Deleted User]

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I know a lot of people's livelihoods are dependent on them, but god am I sick of reading "when will the pubs reopen" every few posts!..........

Yup, a large percentage reckon easing of restrictions means pubs opening. It's mad.

road_high

pjohnson wrote: »

It was the same when the pubs were even threatened with the idea of closure. It appears we have a far bigger drink problem than anyone expected.

They’re a huge part of Irish social and indeed economic life. Employ a lot of people right down the supply chain.
Of course people will want to discuss it