maninasia wrote: » Why are you a teacher if you are afraid of it interacting with students or working in a noisy environment?
An Ri rua wrote: » No they're not. Since when do employees have to do solo runs and figure things out? This is the remit of the Dept of Education. Catch yourself on.
Teach30 wrote: » Overall I’d like to point out that while it may seem that a teacher is doing very little you have no idea what is going on in their lives.
The Bishop Basher wrote: » We obviously have different approaches to our work. When something new needs to be done In work I’ll go figure it out myself. I don’t wait for someone to tell me how to figure it out because I’d be waiting forever and besides, that kind of lazy approach would be frowned upon. This thread is enlightening. I can see now why my daughters teachers have done so little in 4 weeks. They’re worried about the dodgy wallpaper in their bedroom along with umpteen other lame excuses.
Coralcoras wrote: » My husband is a teacher and currently working to upload work on google classroom using the family laptop. I absolutely oppose the notion of zoom. Where are me and my new baby going to go for the day? The bedroom? Ir should my husband present to his students from his bedroom???
s1ippy wrote: » Also Zoom's security breaches are troubling (the GAA Club porn incident and several others, a Google away)..
Teach30 wrote: » When did I say I was afraid of noise? I’ll interact in a professional manner not idle small talk.
AmberGold wrote: » So far I’ve heard 1 An argument about not streaming a class from a bedroom. 2. Another who wants the school to opened to stream from there. Let’s face it we all have access to a laptop with a mic and speakers and broadband, beginning to sound like Garda not wanting to adopt the Pulse system. Enjoy your break as you send out one or two emails a week to your respective classes.
AmberGold wrote: » I have three children under 12, none of their schools are taking the opportunity to avail of the latest technology to provide lessons. Given WhatsApp, Teams and Zoom etc are free this is disappointing as all we seem to have is teachers flinging homework over the wall & lots of it at that. I appreciate teachers have their own children to look after but an hour or two a day wouldn’t be too much to ask. Is this unique to the schools my children attend or are our educators missing a trick, I’m thinking about contacting the principal of the school to voice my concern.
TheValeyard wrote: » What you mean by this?
[Deleted User] wrote: » Male senior infants teacher here. I have an eight week old and an 18 month old at home but I am still trying to keep the show on the road and the kids engaged. I mostly work very early in the morning, late at night or during nap time. I use a system called Class Dojo to send out a PDF of their work for the week each Sunday night. I'm realistic and ask the parents to do what they can, and for the most part the parents are great and very engaged. Then every morning I'll send out some resources and optional extra worksheets to complement the work. I'll also send out quizzes and fun tasks and challenges and ask the parents to send in pictures of the kids' work and activities and share them on the app so the kids can see each other at work. They send in pictures of their work and I'll give some feedback and encouragement. It helps to sustain the sense of being a class and there is lots of goodwill and great feedback. As anyone who has ever taught young children will know, the thought of doing a live lesson on Zoom or Google classroom is just not feasible and would be a disaster. It would also not be fair on my wife to leave her alone with a tiny baby and a lively toddler. Bashing teachers is a sport at this stage, but thinking that we should just be able to adapt and plough on as normal from home is wishful thinking. Teaching is not like working in an office or for a company. I've done both. Teaching is immersive and tactile and in the younger years and to be honest at the moment what young children need mostly is a sense of engagement with school and their classmates, some sense of being together in this, more than live lessons or remote teaching. If teachers can provide support to parents and the children can continue to work in some way that is fun and engaging then that's as much as can be expected.
gnf_ireland wrote: » What happens in 3 weeks time if you have to go back to work ? Your wife is on her own then. Believe it or not, parents have challenges too and everyone has to get on with it No one is bashing teachers who are trying their genuine best. People are rightly frustrated that some teachers feel that sending an email once a week and radio silence after that constitutes support or engagement with kids. No one expects infants to be taught over zoom. No one is that silly. But as a suggestion, maybe have a zoom call (no video) with the class some day this week and sing a song or two and so whatever else is natural for the classroom. 15 minutes to show the kids you are still there and not something Mammy or Daddy reads from an email. Or maybe record a short 30 second message that mentions their name and how hard they are trying Especially with infants - it’s not about the work, it’s about the engagement. Parents can access reading and writing material online. What they cannot replace is the relationship between the teacher and child. And in many cases, this is missing right now. No one is saying teaching is like working in a company. But in these time’s everyone needs to adapt and everyone is understanding of those making an effort. I would happily take your level of engagement over my teachers single email a week and radio silence after that - funnily enough for senior infants as well. The last line of that note this week said “an don’t forget RTE classroom is back from Monday” - despite the fact the content is not directed towards infant classes !! Well done for trying, but remember there are those who are making no effort and that’s where people’s distraction is directed towards
[Deleted User] wrote: » If I go back to school, then my toddler will go back to the childminder and she will be on her own with the newborn. And thanks for the suggestions on how to do my job! Let me know what you do and I'll give you a few suggestions on how you could improve your output! That's a joke but I think it cuts to the heart of the matter - nearly everyone thinks they know how to teach but only those who do know how different it is from the perceptions people have. As for the messages, yes, I record myself doing the challenges I set them (build a fort, help out at home, PE, keep uppies) and put them up on Dojo with a few appearances from my toddler and the kids love to see it.
RobAMerc wrote: teachers do massively important work and we as parents are very much indebted to them and the fantastic effort they put in. Remember even missing a week is detrimental to our children's lives and future prospects - thats why I think its fantastic that the teachers are considering canceling the summer holidays and bringing the children back to school for June, July and August in lieu of the time they are not teaching now. It truely shows how much they value themselves and their own work, and the sacrifice they are willing to make to make up for it.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Our educational systems aren't that important, they actually do a very bad job of preparing kids for adulthood, and rote learning is a truly dreadful method of teaching as it only tests memory, only one aspect of intelligence and learning. We really need to stop harassing kids with all this homework nonsense, and teach them valuable life skills instead. I have great pity on exam kids this year, with even more stress on their shoulders with this whole leaving nonsense
niallo27 wrote: Come on, this cannot be a valid reason. Even hotspotting on your phone in the back arse of no where would get you 5-6 Mbps.
Ricky Wonderful Addict wrote: » Yes that would be another good solution. They could align with the secondary schools to do the same (take May, June and July as summer holidays for secondary). Mocks are held during normal school year and take the full exam format/set up, so no reason why leaving cert couldn't take place in August and everyone back to school come August as well, virus permitting of course. .
completedit wrote: Education is the sum of its parts. What are the life skills you want to give them? How to pay bills? How to buy a house? (I just always see these type or comments under Joe Rogan videos) Seems to completely miss the point. Education provides kids with skills that are hard to quantify because we take it as a given that they will have them. Our education system gives people the skills they need to have the best chance to survive in our environment.
Teach30 wrote: » Right and have my mother roaring at me do I want my dinner/am I going to the shop now/will I answer the phone/what am I doing etc etc or their grandchildren running in on top of me - they have NO boundaries. I would actually be mortified for my students to see that living situation. I am not willing to risk it to be honest. Overall I’d like to point out that while it may seem that a teacher is doing very little you have no idea what is going on in their lives. I’m struggling as it is being at home caring for my elderly parents. The lack of contact with friends, the fact my wedding has been cancelled and I can’t see my fiance. My nerves are in shreds, I can’t sleep and I also have to worry about not getting in trouble for lack of internet access. When in reality I am trying my very best to stay on top of things but I feel like I’m sinking as I have no routine in my life. Let me back in a classroom and I will gladly teach from there.
facehugger99 wrote: While the rest of the workforce has had to get on with remote working and make the best of it, the teachers are using every excuse from lack of technology to GDPR - it would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.
noodler wrote: » I'm sorry you are feeling that way. However, what would you be doing if school was on? Would you be going? Or would you stay home to look after your elderly parents? You have so many excuses in your posts and some of them are incredulous as excuses for not doing a bit of work with your atudents.
maninasia wrote: » You said you couldn't work because your parents are noisy. Fact is everybody has to adjust right now. Better done than not done. You think the rest of us working from home have it any better ? Students need to be in contact with teachers, they don't want their teachers hiding away behind email.
thomasdylan wrote: » Why would it be a GDPR issue to use your own laptop?
Teach30 wrote: » Yea I dont want my students knowing I live at home with my parents. The noise levels they create make it an unsuitable area for streaming from. Just like us all the students will have to cope. Resilience is a key feature of wellbeing and this is a great time to work on that. Nothing wrong with using email to assist in remote learning, they can ask their parents/guardians for help if they need to and I’m only an email away if they have questions.
Wanderer78 wrote: » I'd say there's plenty of trades people using their Internet devices to remote work alright!