salmocab wrote: » Yes I was being facetious I thought that was obvious and didn’t need pointing out. I’m sceptical that you have organised payment and delivery of your coffin and have organised someone to collect your body put it in the box and transport it to Wexford for 350 euro. Maybe you have using mates or whatever but it sounds a bit cheap. The rest of the funeral sounds grand, personally I don’t care where I end up as I’ll be dead and very uninterested at that stage.
olestoepoke wrote: » There will be no priest present at any stage so no need to pay €200. I am not religious.
splinter65 wrote: » My point was that it’s not correct to appoint anymore then a couple of 100 euro out of the entire cost of the funeral/wake to the religious aspect of it. People spend more on flowers, so why not mention the florist instead of the priest?
Rows Grower wrote: » Having signed up to WhatsApp a month ago, I've discovered and I've decided this is the way I want to go, I'll drop a few grand on this when the time is right if I have a bit of notice...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EroOICwfD3g
markc1184 wrote: » My mothers funeral was last October in Drogheda, plot already owned and previously used. For the undertakers fees, coffin and accessories, gravedigger, church fees, musician, the afters and I'm sure I'm missing out on some, there was a few €'s change out of €6k.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Sorry about the bad news there. Hope you're keeping well. Can I ask which undertaker that was? I presume Townley?
olestoepoke wrote: » Natural burial grounds in Wexford cost around 950 for the plot, 200 for the hole to be dug and a cheap biodegradable cardboard coffin. Thats me in the hole for less than 1,500. Funerals are a rip off, they take advantage of a really tough time for a lot of people. I am not religious and would rather my family kept the 6k difference so it's down to wexford for me in the back of a van.
hayser wrote: » I'm so sorry for your loss. A lot of people might not realise but if a loved one was a member of a credit union or part of a union during their working years, they may be entitled to a death benefit. It can really help at times like these.
Tork wrote: » This is definitely worth checking out, though some of the credit unions seem to be pulling back from this. Our local one has watered theirs down considerably. There can be a bit of help in certain circumstances https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/death_related_benefits/benefits_and_entitlements_following_a_death.html but it's not going to help most people.
olestoepoke wrote: » Oh ok, yeh thats personal preference, the natural burial grounds guys will plant a tree for an extra cost which I personally think is a lot nicer than flowers. And the Catholic Church charges €400 now, massive increase. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/dublin-church-funeral-fees-to-rise-by-23-from-january-1.4065173
splinter65 wrote: » In small town Ireland in the circumstances you describe...
splinter65 wrote: » Thats in Dublin where costs are much higher. Once again you should price a celebrant and a function venue and see if you can get both for €400? I seriously doubt it. Our cathedral asks for €250.
splinter65 wrote: » In small town Ireland in the circumstances you describe the Gardaí will indeed recommend undertakers to you and if you’re too upset they will ring one for you who will then pitch up and take over and lead you through the options available to you. They will organise everything for you according to your wishes within reason. You will be asked to pick a coffin/casket, sometimes from a brochure sometimes in an viewing room. Somethings you ask for might not be possible. For example if you choose a Catholic or other religious funeral then you will have to adhere to the conditions imposed therein. This can cause issues. The funeral mass is a public event in normal times. You won’t have exclusive use of the church. The liturgy of the mass cannot be usurped by your wishes. In other words your loved ones funeral just happens to be part of the mass. You can’t take away any bits of the mass or add in any bits that wouldn’t be appropriate. This includes music. The priest can and will veto songs or performances he considers inappropriate during the mass. Don’t forget you can have these performances stories poems or songs to your hearts content either at home in the funeral home or in the graveyard. You don’t have to organise anything to do with the grave digging/opening/booking crematorium as the undertaker will do all that. The undertaker will transport your loved one to and from the PM if there is one. You might be asked to pick out clothes for your loved one to be buried in. The undertaker will organise flowers but you can get your own or have none if you like.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Very helpful reply, thanks a lot, man. Can I ask, in terms of caskets and such, how does it work? Do they try to up-sell you, or do they leave a booklet with you (assuming they work from a brochure and not a viewing room) and you give them a shout and let them know? Or is it a 'need to know now, hurry it up, you know they would have wanted the best' kind of pressure sales pitch? (or is that just one of those things that varies from place to place?)
olestoepoke wrote: » Wont be giving the church a penny on principle. I'm a non-believer so no need for such extravagance.
splinter65 wrote: » You don’t have to have the church at all. Most people still do mostly because they want there to be a structure to the proceedings surrounding the funeral of their loved one and in Ireland a church centred ceremony provides that kind of purpose. €250 for the amount of attention and time the family get is certainly not an extravagance.
olestoepoke wrote: » I am an atheist so why would I pay for a priest or a church?
Deleted User wrote: » I'm atheist, too. However, if I end up using their buildings or services, I would pay for the use of them.
olestoepoke wrote: » Why would you need to use any buildings except you own living room?
splinter65 wrote: » You classed the priest as an “extravagance” in an earlier post. You brought religion into the thread. The way some atheists are inclined to do.... I’ve been making the argument that he’s not an extravagance. No one is suggesting that you would want a priest. You’ve told us 3 or 4 times now that you’re an atheist, the way some atheists are inclined to do.....
costacorta wrote: » And if you need to buy a grave add another €1000 min to €1800 on top of that plus I see a lot of funerals nowadays come with being invited back fora meal afterwards so that would bring funeral bill to 15k ..
olestoepoke wrote: » Whether or not you think €400 is an extravagance is subjective. I live in Dublin so that's what it costs on average. I brought religion into this because religion has a large part to play in most funerals and at €400+ is considerable part of the costs. I said that I was an athesist once and implied that I was a non-believer to make the point that I personally would have no need for a priest but you can exaggerate that a little to suit your narrative the way some people like you are inclined to do.....
Cupatae wrote: » 15 grand for a funeral? fire me in a ditch and throw a few shovels over me when im done anyway thats ridiculous.
Addle wrote: » How did you arrange that license?
olestoepoke wrote: » What licence?
salmocab wrote: » It’s like weddings to be fair, lots of extras if you want but the person is just as dead at the end. Just like weddings though who is anyone else to judge how much was spent.
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