Nermal wrote: » 10,000 people, two thirds who would die within a year anyway. (https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/04/15/1586943153000/Why-are-we-really-in-lockdown--/) Let's be generous and assume that the remaining third would have 10 years left on average. That's 40,000 years of life saved. Until the present mania gripped our leaders it was national policy not to spend more than €45,000 per year of life saved. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26497002) So if we've really averted 10,000 deaths, we shouldn't have spent more than €1.8bn to do so.We projected to spend more than twelve times that this year alone! I think the only way some of you will wake up is when a ration-book pops through the letterbox. After you're done disinfecting it, of course.
easypazz wrote: » I shouldn't have to. If the minister for health is making statements then they should be transparently available on as many channels as possible. In particular gov.ie
Xertz wrote: » Sorry for going slightly OT here, but, in general newspapers have always been purchased. It's not like you can just walk into your local shop and pick up a copy of the Sunday Business Post or the Sunday Independent and walk out the door with it without paying. You're generally paying for their opinion and analysis, not just for access to raw press statements and there's widespread public availability through free-to-air public service TV i.e. RTE and Virgin Media is Free to Air and then you've lots of reasonably good quality online content available e.g. RTE.ie, IrishExaminer.com, Brakingnews.ie, independent.ie (most of it), and of course thejournal.ie and plenty of other that are totally free to read. I think the subscription models some of the traditional newspapers are using are using are FAR, FAR too expensive and I can't understand why more papers aren't using the likes of Apple Pay and Google Pay, PayPal etc etc to let people just quickly purchase a copy of a single edition or coming in with pricing of about €10/month. Most of them are trying to get subscriptions for secure cashflow but in a lot of cases they're simply way too expensive, given they're significantly more than the cost of say Netflix or Spotify per month. I'd say we'll have a complete cull of the number of papers we have in Ireland in the coming months (major drying up of advertising going on) as many of them really have not adapted to the online world and even all these years into 'new media' they still treated it as a niche, extra channel and failed to make it pay. It's not unique to Ireland, but I think we are going to see a rather changed media market by 2021.
completedit wrote: » The way we have framed the crisis has just changed. The masses are just where some of us were like 6 weeks ago in terms of accepting the situation. Now the whole narrative has changed that we can get back to business as usual while people die and even if there is a spike those people will just be viewed as collateral damage. Simple psychology. We just get used to certain things and people dying by Covid will just be the norm. Business as usual
easypazz wrote: » We get all that but the point here is that the situation is extremely serious and Ministers shooting the breeze in interviews, which are edited to sell copy, causes further confusion and upset to people. RTE are the public service broadcaster and are at least obliged to provide the information factually.
growleaves wrote: » False. The models on which restrictions were based turned out to be objectively wrong and were revised downwards. As well as that, recent research from virologists has shown that the disease is far less infectious than was assumed. So we aren't pretty much exactly where we have been for the last couple of months, from a scientific point of view. We're pretty much exactly somewhere entirely different.
Tell me how wrote: » You are right. It's not like during the 12 minute video that he directed people to gov.ie to keep abreast of the latest information. (Yes he did). You seem to want to get outraged over a ridiculous non-issue.
The One Doctor wrote: » Evidence please.
Viscount Aggro wrote: » There are loads of people out driving today. I think a lot of people have made their decision on what the lockdown means. The Royal Canal footpath was packed with people.
KrustyUCC wrote: » After today 15 days of lockdown left 12 days to the probable announcement on the Friday
Spanish Eyes wrote: » Honestly, I sometimes smile at the naivety of some posters here. Even IF total lockdown is eased somewhat, it will be the same for many people anyway. Construction might be allowed, DIY/Garden centres of a certain size could re open, and that's it for now. Schools I don't think will open again until September, and if they do there will have to be tiny classes, and one day a week for pupils. Teachers need to be protected against the kiddie carriers too remember? I'm working on the basis that it will be September/October before we see any real opening up of anything more really. If it is done too soon, there could be another spike, and back we go again to lockdown to help the hospitals cope. I am not a negative person, but am a realist, and figure if things go well it's a bonus, but better to be slow and steady about it for now.
easypazz wrote: » Surely an announcement will be earlier than that so that construction sites can be getting organised etc.?
KrustyUCC wrote: » The lockdown will be eased somewhat The government are going to find it very hard to justify not easing lockdown measures
pgj2015 wrote: » what about the checkpoints where people are told to turn back and people being questioned on the streets by the guards?
BanditLuke wrote: » You are going to be very disappointed I'm afraid. Numbers still very high.
niallo27 wrote: » They really arent though, another big reduction today.
Speakerboxx wrote: » What's the panic? Do we want more deaths? The virus is still live and well in this country. Until it dies off we shouldn't be restricting anything. Do you know how contiguous it is?
JRant wrote: » I wonder is there any merit in extending the school year out to the end of July.
