Spanish Eyes wrote: » Honestly, I sometimes smile at the naivety of some posters here. Even IF total lockdown is eased somewhat, it will be the same for many people anyway. Construction might be allowed, DIY/Garden centres of a certain size could re open, and that's it for now. Schools I don't think will open again until September, and if they do there will have to be tiny classes, and one day a week for pupils. Teachers need to be protected against the kiddie carriers too remember? I'm working on the basis that it will be September/October before we see any real opening up of anything more really. If it is done too soon, there could be another spike, and back we go again to lockdown to help the hospitals cope. I am not a negative person, but am a realist, and figure if things go well it's a bonus, but better to be slow and steady about it for now.
easypazz wrote: » We get all that but the point here is that the situation is extremely serious and Ministers shooting the breeze in interviews, which are edited to sell copy, causes further confusion and upset to people. RTE are the public service broadcaster and are at least obliged to provide the information factually.
KrustyUCC wrote: » After today 15 days of lockdown left 12 days to the probable announcement on the Friday
Viscount Aggro wrote: » There are loads of people out driving today. I think a lot of people have made their decision on what the lockdown means. The Royal Canal footpath was packed with people.
The One Doctor wrote: » Evidence please.
Tell me how wrote: » You are right. It's not like during the 12 minute video that he directed people to gov.ie to keep abreast of the latest information. (Yes he did). You seem to want to get outraged over a ridiculous non-issue.
growleaves wrote: » False. The models on which restrictions were based turned out to be objectively wrong and were revised downwards. As well as that, recent research from virologists has shown that the disease is far less infectious than was assumed. So we aren't pretty much exactly where we have been for the last couple of months, from a scientific point of view. We're pretty much exactly somewhere entirely different.
completedit wrote: » The way we have framed the crisis has just changed. The masses are just where some of us were like 6 weeks ago in terms of accepting the situation. Now the whole narrative has changed that we can get back to business as usual while people die and even if there is a spike those people will just be viewed as collateral damage. Simple psychology. We just get used to certain things and people dying by Covid will just be the norm. Business as usual
Xertz wrote: » Sorry for going slightly OT here, but, in general newspapers have always been purchased. It's not like you can just walk into your local shop and pick up a copy of the Sunday Business Post or the Sunday Independent and walk out the door with it without paying. You're generally paying for their opinion and analysis, not just for access to raw press statements and there's widespread public availability through free-to-air public service TV i.e. RTE and Virgin Media is Free to Air and then you've lots of reasonably good quality online content available e.g. RTE.ie, IrishExaminer.com, Brakingnews.ie, independent.ie (most of it), and of course thejournal.ie and plenty of other that are totally free to read. I think the subscription models some of the traditional newspapers are using are using are FAR, FAR too expensive and I can't understand why more papers aren't using the likes of Apple Pay and Google Pay, PayPal etc etc to let people just quickly purchase a copy of a single edition or coming in with pricing of about €10/month. Most of them are trying to get subscriptions for secure cashflow but in a lot of cases they're simply way too expensive, given they're significantly more than the cost of say Netflix or Spotify per month. I'd say we'll have a complete cull of the number of papers we have in Ireland in the coming months (major drying up of advertising going on) as many of them really have not adapted to the online world and even all these years into 'new media' they still treated it as a niche, extra channel and failed to make it pay. It's not unique to Ireland, but I think we are going to see a rather changed media market by 2021.
easypazz wrote: » I shouldn't have to. If the minister for health is making statements then they should be transparently available on as many channels as possible. In particular gov.ie
Nermal wrote: » 10,000 people, two thirds who would die within a year anyway. (https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/04/15/1586943153000/Why-are-we-really-in-lockdown--/) Let's be generous and assume that the remaining third would have 10 years left on average. That's 40,000 years of life saved. Until the present mania gripped our leaders it was national policy not to spend more than €45,000 per year of life saved. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26497002) So if we've really averted 10,000 deaths, we shouldn't have spent more than €1.8bn to do so.We projected to spend more than twelve times that this year alone! I think the only way some of you will wake up is when a ration-book pops through the letterbox. After you're done disinfecting it, of course.
frillyleaf wrote: » I’m not faulting newspapers for using paywalls, you’ve missed my point. My point is certain communication- eg communication during a pandemic from our health minister - should not be limited to people who pay.
khalessi wrote: » Averages always make things look better then they are. We have classes of Junior infants with 32 chidren in them
From a scientific point of view, we are pretty much exactly where we have been for the last couple of months.
Tell me how wrote: » Christ. You don't seem to know how twitter works.
Tell me how wrote: » He did a 12 minute piece on Twitter yesterday evening in which he answered a variety of questions live as they came in. Newspapers can't be faulted for using paywalls. They have to pay their staff. That world is changing rapidly from what it was and we need to find a way to support it, not let it die out.
easypazz wrote: » Good for twitter. How about he posts a transcript of his full interview and his twitter interview on the official website so people can see everything he said, rather than the bits the media use to sell copy.
easypazz wrote: » Pubs will reopen this summer. Its not just pubs, restaurants, hotels, functions like weddings, christmas party nights etc. are all essential to keep hotels in particular viable. An underground network of house parties will develop anyway, once restrictions are lifted.
easypazz wrote: » 100% Its either an official communication to the people or its not. During the election FG "disappeared" him because he was toxic.
Tell me how wrote: » He did a 12 minute piece on Twitter yesterday evening in which he answered a variety of questions live as they came in.
lord quackinton wrote: » like of the rest of the lockdown weirdos on here it sounds like you dont have kids when schools open they will be full young children are struggling badly with this, they dont understand what is going and cant understand why they cant meet their cousins and go to school or even go to the playground
frillyleaf wrote: » Again this is not absolute. If a treatment was found next week or month pubs could open even with limited hours or customers.
frillyleaf wrote: » Unless subscribed the articles can’t be read. Information like this shouldn’t be in interviews such as this. It should be clearly communicated and addressed to everyone
Jim_Hodge wrote: » Ever hear of buying a newspaper? He's saying nothing different in that interview to what he has said in other print articles, TV and Radio.
