Relaxation of restrictions

polesheep wrote: »

Every time you are caught out you hastily rearrange your life history.

Show me where. I have always been honest, just because I may have tried more things in life then you does not mean I have been dishonest but thank you

niallo27

Without being flippant about the hospital situation, weren't hospital personal always run off their feet. Is that not why we had so many waiting on trolleys around the country.

Hearty80 wrote: »

Off course your friends are, are they like your teacher friends. There is 32 cases in our local hospital how is that overwhelmed? Beaumont is the busiest, my neighbour works there and there a&e is not overwhelmed either. In fact she works in the transplant dept and sadly no transplants can take place. But she has not been deployed.

You are here a short while but are a benefit to society, we welcome your imput and thank you we have all learned from you wisdom especially the bit about a mallet and a dog

khalessi wrote: »

Thank you for your input I have no need to make anything up.

Every time you are caught out you hastily rearrange your life history.

Jim_Hodge

Hearty80 wrote: »

Because we stayed home and will continue to stay home for 2 more weeks. But then it's time to go back to work and school.

Yes, but gradually and safely. Big deal, you stayed at home. I have a daughter and a friend both in full isolation as of this morning, as a result of their going to work to nurse Covid patients and now being ill themselves. They need this to be kept in check and just going back to normal on 5th May won't do that. Scholl for most children can wait until September if needs be. You come across as angry because you had to mind your own children while safely in your own home. Spare a thought for those who are seeing the true side of this because you seem unable to fully appreciate what it's like out there at the moment.

Mic 1972

Hearty80 wrote: »

Widely reported that emergency departments are not overwhelmed. Not just by me, why are you so aggressive it's simply a known fact. All day and non essential surgeries are cancelled. Hospitals are simply not overwhelmed, whatever you read on Facebook.

The answer in your own words

HSE is operating in emergency mode, nurses and medics can't wait to go back to normal
Widely reported also that people working front line jobs in hospitals have died, they do so trying to save people including idiots who think this is just a flue

Ace2007 wrote: »

Not every doctor and healthcare worker works in the A&E - maybe once your son in law to be is qualified he'll know the difference.

He is qualified.

Hearty80 wrote: »

Widely reported that emergency departments are not overwhelmed. Not just by me, why are you so aggressive it's simply a known fact. All day and non essential surgeries are cancelled. Hospitals are simply not overwhelmed, whatever you read on Facebook.

It's lack of sleep. He's on here morning, noon and night spouting his shi*te.

stephenjmcd

khalessi wrote: »

A family member works in a hospital and is run off their feet. They have 2 emergencies one covid extremely busy known as the RED A&E and the other A&E non covid. One is busy and kept going the other is extremely busy. My ex nursing colleagues, in various hospitals around the country, tell me they are kept going due to covid related sickness admissions and staff with covid out sick .

Like wise 2 family members in 2 Dublin hospitals both say its busy but manageable they aren't being overrun with admissions as they had expected to be when all this started, admissions down and they've capacity both covid and non covid, they're exhausted but they're putting that down to less staff being available at certain times and the PPE, they've both said after a few minutes in it your roasting, extremely stuffy and you just sweat which is completely draining them. To even go and get a drink of water requires you to take off the PPE and then suit up again.

polesheep wrote: »

I'm about to go for a cycle with my wife, a nurse. She's enjoying her weekend off and not feeling at all exhausted. She was told that she should be going back to her own specialist unit next week as she is no longer required for Covid19 duties.

Maybe sure you stay in the 2km radius

polesheep wrote: »

You made this up just like you make everything up.

Thank you for your input I have no need to make anything up.

khalessi wrote: »

A family member works in a hospital and is run off their feet. They have 2 emergencies one covid extremely busy known as the RED A&E and the other A&E non covid. One is busy and kept going the other is extremely busy. My ex nursing colleagues, in various hospitals around the country, tell me they are kept going due to covid related sickness admissions and staff with covid out sick .

Off course your friends are, are they like your teacher friends. There is 32 cases in our local hospital how is that overwhelmed? Beaumont is the busiest, my neighbour works there and there a&e is not overwhelmed either. In fact she works in the transplant dept and sadly no transplants can take place. But she has not been deployed.

iamwhoiam

Hearty80 wrote: »

Widely reported that emergency departments are not overwhelmed. Not just by me, why are you so aggressive it's simply a known fact. All day and non essential surgeries are cancelled. Hospitals are simply not overwhelmed, whatever you read on Facebook.

There are many nurses and doctors and carers who are very busy so maybe the A and E you know could help out elsewhere

Hearty80 wrote: »

Widely reported that emergency departments are not overwhelmed. Not just by me, why are you so aggressive it's simply a known fact. All day and non essential surgeries are cancelled. Hospitals are simply not overwhelmed, whatever you read on Facebook.

Not every doctor and healthcare worker works in the A&E - maybe once your son in law to be is qualified he'll know the difference.

khalessi wrote: »

A family member works in a hospital and is run off their feet. They have 2 emergencies one covid extremely busy known as the RED A&E and the other A&E non covid. One is busy and kept going the other is extremely busy. My ex nursing colleagues, in various hospitals around the country, tell me they are kept going due to covid related sickness admissions and staff with covid out sick .

You made this up just like you make everything up.

Tell me how

Cyrus wrote: »

in the us some health care workers are concerned for their jobs they are so quiet

I think some people here are watching contagion on repeat

Any link to this?

Mic 1972

easypazz wrote: »

What are we allowed do here that is not allowed in Spain?

Go for a walk?

Do you think it's a small one?
Here you dont have the police jumping on people if they are walking outside. have you the video of the guy laying in the sun on his own on a deserted beach in Italy today?

Ace2007 wrote: »

So your son in law to be works isn't busy - but yet we have healthcare workers around the country exhausted and getting the virus.

But sure you know best Hearty.

I'm about to go for a cycle with my wife, a nurse. She's enjoying her weekend off and not feeling at all exhausted. She was told that she should be going back to her own specialist unit next week as she is no longer required for Covid19 duties.

Hearty80 wrote: »

Widely reported that emergency departments are not overwhelmed. Not just by me, why are you so aggressive it's simply a known fact. All day and non essential surgeries are cancelled. Hospitals are simply not overwhelmed, whatever you read on Facebook.

No not overwhelemed to OHMYGOD stages but busy and kept going. Most emergency departments have been split in two covid and non covid. The covid is extremely busy.

Cyrus

Hearty80 wrote: »

Widely reported that emergency departments are not overwhelmed. Not just by me, why are you so aggressive it's simply a known fact. All day and non essential surgeries are cancelled. Hospitals are simply not overwhelmed, whatever you read on Facebook.

in the us some health care workers are concerned for their jobs they are so quiet

I think some people here are watching contagion on repeat

martingriff

easypazz wrote: »

Can you answer the question, which of my few rights need to make this a lockdown?

All of them as you are still allowed out. I thought the post you quoted explained it well

Ace2007 wrote: »

So your son in law to be works isn't busy - but yet we have healthcare workers around the country exhausted and getting the virus.

But sure you know best Hearty.

Widely reported that emergency departments are not overwhelmed. Not just by me, why are you so aggressive it's simply a known fact. All day and non essential surgeries are cancelled. Hospitals are simply not overwhelmed, whatever you read on Facebook.

Hearty80 wrote: »

Because as I previously explained my daughters partner is a doctor in a hospital and they are simply not overwhelmed. In fact a&e has never been as quiter as the drunks and time wasters are not clogging them up every weekend.

A family member works in a hospital and is run off their feet. They have 2 emergencies one covid extremely busy known as the RED A&E and the other A&E non covid. One is busy and kept going the other is extremely busy. My ex nursing colleagues, in various hospitals around the country, tell me they are kept going due to covid related sickness admissions and staff with covid out sick .

Hearty80 wrote: »

Because as I previously explained my daughters partner is a doctor in a hospital and they are simply not overwhelmed. In fact a&e has never been as quiter as the drunks and time wasters are not clogging them up every weekend.

So your son in law to be works isn't busy - but yet we have healthcare workers around the country exhausted and getting the virus.

But sure you know best Hearty.

Nermal wrote: »

10,000 people, two thirds who would die within a year anyway. (https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/04/15/1586943153000/Why-are-we-really-in-lockdown--/)

Let's be generous and assume that the remaining third would have 10 years left on average. That's 40,000 years of life saved.

Until the present mania gripped our leaders it was national policy not to spend more than €45,000 per year of life saved.
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26497002)

So if we've really averted 10,000 deaths, we shouldn't have spent more than €1.8bn to do so.

We projected to spend more than twelve times that this year alone!

I think the only way some of you will wake up is when a ration-book pops through the letterbox. After you're done disinfecting it, of course.

Nermal - why should we try to save anyone if they get sick - be much cheaper to just let them die - regardless if it's the virus or cancer or anything disease?
survival of the fittest comes to mind....