Ace2007 wrote: » Can you please clarify if the mortality rate is less than 0.4% because of the restrictions - given they have they them in Germany. Or is it 0.4% without restrictions. Given that you are sharing this information is suspect you will know the answer?
Mic 1972 wrote: » and yet young and healthy people end up in ICU every day
easypazz wrote: » Delivery, delivery, delivery. None of us denying that takeaways are available. We could always get takeaways. We don't need examples, we use them ourselves.
easypazz wrote: » He never mentioned restrictions. But I doubt you will get since you don't understand the difference between a bar and an off licence.
Ace2007 wrote: » You said that restaurants will open in some capacity - you didn't say sit in, you never give exact details, you always are vague in your replies.
facehugger99 wrote: » So there now appears to be a body of research coming from Germany and elsewhere that the actual death rate of the virus is less than 0.4%. Given the demographic make up of those who are dying (in their 80's with underlying serious conditions), the lockdown is looking more and more like a catastrophically stupid response. One can only hope that lockdown-morons who bayed for tighter and tighter restrictions will bear the brunt of the coming economic fallout.
Mic 1972 wrote: » now, that is stupid who in their right mind want o cripple their own economy? you seem to deny there is a pandemic at the moment, people have health concerns about themselves and their families stay at home and relax
Hearty80 wrote: » I'm actually very relaxed at home thank you very much. But a dog with a mallet up his arse could understand that its unsustainable to keep everything closed indefinitely. There's obviously a pandemic that is very much under control in Ireland. So in another 3 weeks not tomorrow it's time to go back to work. I have a daughter who has worked full time through all of this in a bank, her boyfriend who she lives with is a gp trainee who works full time in a hospital. So I'm very aware of the health risks to the elderly and unwell. But the economy is a major concern also and there wont be any money to pay anything soon if the economy doesnt resume.
Ace2007 wrote: » Exactly - so the article is 0.4% mortlaity rate based on the actions to date. Its not 0.4% if we had done nothing. You guys seem to miss this point altogether.
easypazz wrote: » The harsh reality is that easing the lockdown will be the lesser of 2 evils. Its just not politically correct to say it. Just shield the old and vulnerable as best we can.
Mic 1972 wrote: » I have an issue with the word indefinitely that keeps popping up in people's posts. Who said the lock down should last forever?The pandemic is nowhere near under control in Ireland, we are reporting 700 + new cases everyday
[Deleted User] wrote: » If a person has a high risk condition, it's understandable that they are way more apprehensive about going back to work.
Mic 1972 wrote: » I have an issue with the word indefinitely that keeps popping up in people's posts. Who said the lock down should last forever? The pandemic is nowhere near under control in Ireland, we are reporting 700 + new cases everyday
lord quackinton wrote: » This will sound arrogant but when then the government decided to lockdown my employer asked me to explain to other non financial employees the likely economic fallout of what is coming.I refused point blank For 2 reasons 1. Most would not understand it and 2. Those that could grasp it did not deserve to be frightened by what the future holds. The lockdowners on here don’t truly understand what awaits them. One insurance broker told me he is jacking it in. This man has 10 employees and has not told then yet because they are his friends as well as employees. What is coming is very scary
Hearty80 wrote: » 700 including old cases from Germany. Even Dr Holohan said it is under control, the peak is over. Thankfully there was no big peak, yes protect the old and vulnerable, everyone else back to work and school.
helimachoptor wrote: » For what it's worth, I was in the local coffee shop (South county Dublin), there's a pub across the road. The pub owner was speaking with the owner of the coffee shop, he said 'he's been told: phased opening of pubs from 2nd weekend in May but not full/normal occupancy til weekend after June Bank Holiday. He was complaining that once he's open again he's to pay full rates etc even if he only permitted to have 10% and he was arguing for rates should match the step up % in customers allowed in. I wasn't involved in the conversation, just listening in.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Not getting your logic. Special needs aside and taking a 16/1 ratio, there are 16 kids are typically in a classroom. If that number is reduced to 8, what's the problem?
celt262 wrote: » The reason it is under control is because of the restrictions lift them and it will be a mess.
pjohnson wrote: » They just want someone else to raise their child. You are a free babysitting service to them and as usual they dont give a rats ass about you or anyone else.
Ace2007 wrote: » So Hearty - if come next Wednesday/Thursday we still have 500+ new cases a week and 200 new deaths, will it still be under control? I said you and other posters would be the first to turn on Dr. Holohan if it turns out, we hit a mini peak, and a much bigger one is around the corner. I just like everyone else wants to get out of this mess, but reopening everything in large scale as Lord Quack and others have repeatedly called for, could lead to a bigger and worse second wave - and then what do we do? The same Dr. Holohan said a few days ago he didn't know if schools would open in September. It's strange that you would ignore this comment, but yet based on others he made come to the conclusion it's time to open the schools.
Murple wrote: » I haven't had much to laugh at in the last while but that gave me a good giggle! There are typically 16 children in a classroom? In this country? Here are some facts about primary classes in Ireland from the school year 2018/2019: 63% of children are in classes of 25 or more, that's 347,500 children. 3 classes in the country had more than 42 children. 23% of children in Cork are in classes of 30 or more. One school in Dublin had an average of 31.9 children across its 8 classes. Children in Leinster (area of highest Covid numbers) and Waterford are more likely to be in classes of more than 25. 45% of schools have at least one class of 30 or more (including my own school which has 8 classes of 30 or more with the rest having between 25 and 28 each) But sure why let facts get in the way!
jester77 wrote: » Schools are opening here tomorrow, classes will be divided with no more than 15 in a room. Half the class will work from home, the other half in the school. This will alternate every second day. No getting together during breaks, staggered breaks. Not sure for that will be managed. Some schools will do every other week instead of every other day for their students.
