Idbatterim wrote: » the contract is signed and its half way built. That existing runway is not fit for purpose, this is discussed in detail on a thread on the aviation forum...
easypazz wrote: » So use runway 2, mothball runway 1, and use either the new or old terminal, whichever suits best. Would that be your thinking?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » No, as I've stated when I want them to begin to be lifted. No later then roughly middle of May, preferably on the 6th and start cautiously. Waiting till at least May 5th is the correct course of action imo. So you advocate a indefinite lockdown then? cause you cant 100% give me a concrete date when they are lifted? this is your logic and your words lol That was your response when i gave my course of action because i didnt have a specific date.
blackcard wrote: » I think golf could be permitted. Maybe people whose surname is between A and E could play at one period, F to J next period etc. Horse racing, greyhound racing behind closed doors. Fishing, shooting permitted. Swimming pools with restrictions. Let people run around GAA, soccer pitches. Mountain climbing with restrictions. My hardware shop is open, don't see a problem as long as access is regulated. Gives people something to do. An hour period should be set aside to allow over 70's to get out. Working from home to carry on where possible. Flexible working hours (including Saturday, Sunday) for others to enable social distancing to take place. Construction on small sites to commence early. No reason why a plumber, electrician, tiler etc. can't work if proper procedures followed. Tough enforcement for non-compliance
Ace2007 wrote: » We can argue all day about pubs - what do people think about gyms - given the mental health positives that getting fit brings to people - do we think these will open anytime soon, or are they going to be a dying business in their current set up?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » Oh my days! The government have not stated when they will begin to lift restrictions. They have not given a specific date or said "end of May", as such there is no stated timeline for these restrictions to be in place. Therefore the lockdown is currently an indefinite one, as we don't know when it will begin to end. All current restrictions may extend beyond May 5th, they may not. I've stated that, if I was in charge, I would begin to ease restrictions after the 5th in small steps, a week after that at most. So I have given a definite timeline as to when I would lift restrictions i.e. no later then the 13th of May or put another way the middle of May. As such, I do not support a lockdown for an indefinite period of time.
martingriff wrote: » I say Gyms could open space out there machine have designated places for people to do there exercise. Obviously some like running may not be able to happen (unless you run in a lab suite). So I see no problem obviously there maybe times you are turned away or have to wait. As you say can be good for health
Idbatterim wrote: » they should lift the idiotic restrictions they implemented now, like gardening and landscaping! :rolleyes: I see in todays irish times, they are allowing hard ware stores re-open fully, shutting down that and the constructions, trades and supply industry (several hundred thousand jobs) was also idiocy...https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/hardware-stores-may-open-during-pandemic-says-government-1.4232565
Cupatae wrote: » I think the gyms are a long shot right now anyway.. maybe down the line.. the argument can be made you dont need the gyms to get fit, so they arent "essential"
monkeynuz wrote: » I saw people out cutting grass commercially yesterday, I as a gardener for one am doing as the government instructed and not working, however, I am concerned as to how long I can leave gardens without any maintenance at all, and ironically my involves me having zero contact with any customers during a working day.
Cupatae wrote: » Are you arguing with yourself now? :pac::D I just applied your own logic to your replies they are your words. You caught yourself out, put the shovel down.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » When do you think restrictions should start being lifted?
Cupatae wrote: » When the health officials back it and we have a clear well defined plan on how to lift em with long term goals in mind.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » You didn't apply any logic, let alone mine. I asked Bandit Luke the following question, to which for reasons unbeknownst to me, you replied to You replied: The health officials have not yet backed any date to lift restrictions. As such the restrictions are here for an indefinite period of time. When this was pointed out to you you back tracked and said May 5th, a date that the experts haven't given to lift restrictions, but a date to which restrictions will continue to before they decide what to do. So they may extend they may not. The government have said that restrictions will continue to at least May 5th. Here, there is no definite timeline for them to end. This is the position you initially supported. They have not said that restrictions will continue till at least May 5th, but no longer then May 13th, at which stage we will begin to ease them. Here, there is a definite timeline for them to begin to ease them. This is the position I support. If you can't see the difference between both positions then there is no helping you.
Cupatae wrote: » You lie too much, you ve lost all credibility, you stopped quoting just before you got to the part that catches yourself out conveniently enough, id imagine its around the time you realized how contradicting your points were despite your best efforts. Me saying "I back the experts opinion and want to see the restrictions lifted with a clearly defined plan and in a well thought out manner" Translated to you "You support indefinite lock down then"
lord quackinton wrote: » Why is ok to expect food shops, refuse collectors and nursing home employees to work through this lockdown All low paid employees being thrown to the wolves by people who support the lockdown while they work safely at home or sit at home on their asses collecting 350 a week I have respect for these employees and I will do my bit in ending this bull**** Lockdown The lockdown is split between the haves and have nots Those who are well off and those who can work from home and students with little worries, while having fun making funny videos And those who have lost their businesses and those who face long term unemployment and the depression and humiliation that follows. Those who will not be able to pay their mortgages and bills. Many will lay in bed tonight thinking suicide is the only escape But those who are for the lockdown don’t care these people Why would they, they only care about themselves
CtevenSrowder wrote: » I haven't lied. The experts haven't given a definite timeline. This is the point. Thats the position you support. They haven't said to lift restrictions after May 5th. As such they are continuing with our indefinite lockdown. And if that is the position you support then fair enough. But at least be aware of it.
easypazz wrote: » This is why the lockdown must be unwound through May, its tough and its cruel but those who die, will die. It could be any one of us or members of our families. Otherwise the long term consequences are grim for us all anyway. Keep some measures as required to keep the ICU beds under control, but we have to face up to reality here.
BanditLuke wrote: » Those who die will die. Just as well the powers that be don't view the situation through your eyes and never will.
Cupatae wrote: » We are in a 3 week lockdown, to which the restrictions are aimed at being lifted... why is that so hard for you to understand? it is subject to change, but as of now its the goal, whats the problem? why you tryna put a negative spin on it? or associate anyone that agrees with it as wanting a permanent lockdown? You are twisting the truth and putting words in peoples mouths.
Cupatae wrote: » Oh buckle up!
CtevenSrowder wrote: » I'm not putting a negative spin of it. It's the situation we are in. I've never said permanent lockdown. I said indefinite. Bit ironic you accuse me of putting words in peoples mouths don't you think!
lord quackinton wrote: » Just think about this:There are Part time workers getting 350 per week into the paw posting here tonight safely in their pyjamas in support of the lockdown There are full time workers right now this minute in shops exposing themselves to the virus not even getting 350 Can someone please explain this to me, preferably one of the lockdown Nazis on here
Cupatae wrote: » The shocking thing is the amount of posters who support his views its genuinely scary. Its why i fear for the hospitals when the restrictions get even slightly eased, the line of thinking is something else, and how they justify it to themselves is something to behold!
