Ace2007 wrote: » Did you miss the bit about more than 75% of the workforce are still working, hence paying taxes? or the bit about some industries are boom and so more vat being paid in those areas?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » I was never unhappy. Iwas responding to BanditLuke who was engaged in the following conversation. If you argue that you want to follow what the experts do, without ever giving your own timeline on what you'd do, then you support our current indefinite lockdown, as noone knows when the restrictions will begin to be lifted. And that is fine. But I suggest people be aware of the position they support.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » This is absolutely not true. I'm sorry. I had an interview for a job in a shopping center and it was cancelled when the 2Km restriction came in. When I said closed I mean in the sense that there are too many people on Welfare for it to continue for a prolonged period of time. I didn't quite know how to word it exactly but I didn't mean closed economy in the true sense of the word e.g. North Korea is a closed economy.
JPCN1 wrote: » Neither then are barbers, dentists, taxi's, public transport, air travel.... At some stage we have to get all these working again.
robinph wrote: » Yes, they will be one of the last to reopen. But it is a far easier to control environment than a pub. The gym can set their equipment further apart, restrict numbers in each area at a time, enforce cleaning before and after use etc. And everyone is sober, unlike in a pub which someone suggested would open before gyms.
BanditLuke wrote: » So nobody has said indefinitely. Ta
robinph wrote: » Change the pubs to sit down at tables and table service only will limit people's movement and close contact, like in a cafe in other European countries. Never going to happen in the UK and Ireland though.
Ace2007 wrote: » You can get jobs as healthcare assistance, in super markers, amazon, essential service jobs - even kellings where looking for staff. If you really want to find work you find it. I had a recruiter onto me yesterday seeing if i would be interested in a job that are doing remote interviews. I know others who have started new jobs during this pandemic - all equipment was shipped out to their house.
easypazz wrote: » For how long though? Bus Eireann / Irish Rail are still paying staff but losing money. 250 people are arriving into Dublin airport every day, do you think its viable to pay all the staff indefinitely? People being paid by county councils, but a lot of commercial rates not coming in. Aer Lingus and Ryanair, how long before they have to sack everybody. That is just a few examples, but if this is not solved another huge tranche of people will be on the dole.
Cupatae wrote: » No i dont support a indefinite lockdown i support what the experts are suggesting, they clearly arent suggesting a indefinite lockdown... incase you didnt know the current lockdown is for 3 weeks. How did you get indefinite from a 3 week lockdown? you can try your hardest to paint people as advocating a indefinite lockdown as much as you want but anyone with a brain in there head will be able to see its nonsense.
Idbatterim wrote: » the airport situation is outrageous, we arent going back to normal travel, for god knows how long. What are these staff, being paid to do?!
CtevenSrowder wrote: » CupofTae did. I'll ask you again then, when do you propose to lift restrictions?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » So there are enough jobs, in your opinion, out there for the 25% of people currently without one?
Cupatae wrote: » Do you think there magically will when these restrictions are lifted? do you think thats the saving grace for the 25%?
Cupatae wrote: » How did you get indefinite from a 3 week lockdown? you can try your hardest to paint people as advocating a indefinite lockdown as much as you want but anyone with a brain in there head will be able to see its nonsense.
Cupatae wrote: » Nope gave you May 5th... again stop the lies. But that aside i said i support the experts opinion (which is a 3 week lockdown) but some how thru mental gymnastics you took that as indefinte.
easypazz wrote: » Massive decisions will need to be made. They are building a second runway in DUB. Probably costs €1 Billion, who will pay for it. They will have to mothball T2, close carparks, shut down whole sections of the airport and run a small operation. Will it be worth opening Shannon or Knock, or even Cork?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » It's quite simple, as I've explained. There is no clear indication as to when the lockdown will end, the lockdown has been extended to May 5th. That doesn't mean restrictions will begin to be lifted then. It was extended before, it could be again. As such we are locked down indefinitely. It's not mental gymnastics, you just don't understand the meaning of the word! Had the government said we will continue on until May 5th and then restrictions will be eased your point would be valid. But they did not do this. That's not necessarily a criticism, but what happened.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » No, but the 25% number will grow the longer we go as we are. It's likely to decrease if we lift restrictions sooner rather then later. Would you disagree?
Cupatae wrote: » Are you asking me to predict the future or something? can you give me the exact date the restrictions will 100% lifted? otherwise by your own logic ironically enough you support an indefinite lockdown aswell.
Idbatterim wrote: » the runway is desperately needed, some planes aer lingus ordered, cant even make the range of where they need to get, with the existing runway as they and this is east coast USA! yeah exactly, just scale back the operation...
CtevenSrowder wrote: » No, as I've stated when I want them to begin to be lifted. No later then roughly middle of May, preferably on the 6th and start cautiously. Waiting till at least May 5th is the correct course of action imo. So you advocate a indefinite lockdown then? cause you cant 100% give me a concrete date when they are lifted? this is your logic and your words lol That was your response when i gave my course of action because i didnt have a specific date.
easypazz wrote: » I don't get your point. If the airline industry collapses why do we need another runway?
Cupatae wrote: » When the lockdown is removed the virus will spread alot faster, it's only a matter of time wait and see the groups and gatherings once the restrictions are eased.
