niallo27 wrote: » Even if there is a lag, it still means these deaths were in the past which is good news.
robinph wrote: » Nobody is chatting to each other in close contact in a gym. You can easily stay meters apart from each other and have zero contact. Pubs are designed for people to be in close contact and chatting to each other. That is where the infections will occur, not from sweaty gym equipment.
Ace2007 wrote: » How is it nitpicking? A moderate tells a poster to look up information before posting again in the thread, that to me seems way out of line. I reported the post in any event now so if it's ok then nothing more will come of it - i just don't think if i said that to you you would take any notice of me.
Masala wrote: » Question....son laid off 3 weeks ago and is sharing a house in Cork with fellow employees. They just self isolating and watchin* Netflix and zoom chats etc. He now asking about comin* home ....to Around 100 Kim’s away. can he get on a Bus Eireann and come home. I see the Buses running.... is there any restrictions on taking them?? What about driving down to collect him.....? He quite clear that he has been careful over pass 3 weeks and has no problem in self isolating again when home. We as parents Not worried that he could risk bring home the virus. Thoughts
alwald wrote: » Nevermind some posters here as they look at a graph without interpretation and they don't even read the full content of the article:Dr Holohan said, however, this cannot be yet interpreted as a real drop off in mortality. "That could be just a delay in the notification of those deaths. We have to wait to understand this. There is always a time lag between incident numbers, admission to hospitals and then mortality."
niallo27 wrote: » I would think pubs would be actually safer than gyms, now saying that usually gyms are full of healthier younger people where as pubs have every sort of person from 18 to 98, healthy and unhealthy.
Ace2007 wrote: » So he knows for 100% fact that less than 45 people are going to die in anyone day from the virus any time in the future? I feel many posters will dig out that recording if next week or the week after the death rate is higher than reported. Stats can prove anything you want them to prove.
GazzaL wrote: » We had our peak 10 days ago. R0 is below 1. All the metrics point towards the essential easing of restrictions. Most people don't want to compound the Coronavirus tragedy with another tragedy when people's lives are destroyed socially and economically, which will result in even more deaths.
Reganio 2 wrote: » It would be in bold if it was a warning or some such. Grow up and stop nitpicking.
Ace2007 wrote: » We can argue all day about pubs - what do people think about gyms - given the mental health positives that getting fit brings to people - do we think these will open anytime soon, or are they going to be a dying business in their current set up?
Cupatae wrote: » I picked on him because he decided to pyscho evaluate anyone that had an opinion that differed to his, anyone that urged a degree of caution in lifting the restrictions , that there are certainly dangers too lifting them, you can bury your head in the sand if you like about the nasty scenarios doesn't make em go away or less real. I want the restrictions lifted as much as the next person but it needs to be well though out and mapped.
GazzaL wrote: » He does know for definite, he's got the statistics, he shared those with the public. It's right there in the article.
GazzaL wrote: » I think the lockdown nazis are a disgrace for ignoring the HSE and the Government, and for trying to mislead people.
Ace2007 wrote: » Is this a direct moderator order or back seat modding? For a moderate to be doing this would be quite a serious offence?
Reganio 2 wrote: » This was my point when I came in this thread. A government official came out and said we have reached the peak is idiotic. What's that going to encourage people to do. Like when they said it dosent effect youngsters, what was that ever going to achieve. No point in saying posters shouldn't saying this when it's a government official saying it.
awec wrote: » I think you might be the one needing to review the data I’d suggest you go read the data released today before posting further.
Ace2007 wrote: » I know what he said, but the peaks where about death, and that's not something he know for definite. But regardless the bigger issue is hospitals being over run - have we hit the peak of new cases? have we hit peak on ICU entry? have we hit the peak of nursing home death, nursing home infections, healthcare infections? Again it's another poster, sharing information - and given people a false sense of hope that we are out of this, when in reality we are no where near.
awec wrote: » Having an economy so that people are able to pay taxes to actually fund a health service is pretty important in terms of helping us get over this. The idea that we can indefinitely fund a health service, pay doctors and nurses, pay for PPE, pay for additional ICU beds, pay for any future covid treatment, purchase any future covid vaccine and pay the 350 covid dole while also funding all the other essential government departments with a half-dead economy is fantasy stuff. There is a cost to lockdown, an enormous one.
awec wrote: » Deaths.
