fleet_admiral wrote: » I've worked in pubs all my life. Your suggestions mean there is no point in reopening
ZX7R wrote: » I nearly got linched in the bup tread for what I said, Irish pubs as we know it are finished. Best scenario is base them on European bars gone are the days of downing 10 pints a night, you could see a maximum time allotted to people or small groups. A limite to the number of drinks consumed. Hopefully gone are the days of binge drinking with has to be seen as an Irish and English thing
facehugger99 wrote: » Lots more groups of people seem to be congregating over the last few days. My elderly neighbours have had the kids and grandkids over, teens are out kicking football in the nearby park and the car parks and aisles of the local shop are busy with people catching up with one another. It's clear that people are getting a bit tired of the current nonsense. It's time for the Govt. to start planning for the easing of restrictions or the people will make that decision for them. We're putting our lives on hold flushing our futures down the toilet to keep a few bedroom-dwellers happy - time to get real.
Ace2007 wrote: » It doesn't have to be deadly to children, for it to increase the cost of insurance. Insurance costs are through the roof already.
Cyrus wrote: » it depends, scandis and germans are going with schools first, presumably on the basis that if they do get it they are the least at risk. So schools could be first. also schools in september, what about creches? if you want to get people back to work...
Cupatae wrote: » Id love if it was put to a vote, to lift the restrictions or not... let the public decide they're own faith... and then if it all goes wrong they have no one to blame but themselves if the hospitals get over run the govt should be allowed to turn around and say "this is what you asked for" I dont mind the restrictions being lifted so long as the blame can be landed squarely at the feet of the people who asked for it if it goes wrong.
Augeo wrote: » I don't know, the mention of creches reminds me that they still haven't announced anything for healthcare folk who have to go to work, there must be issues they are working through. I'll be amazed if primary schools are open in May or June, I know that's not your view. We'll have to wait and see. In cases where both parents are WFH now and managing childcare then they may have to continue WFH to an extent for the coming months. Where I am working at the moment there are loads of folk with kids and no one that I've spoken to expects schools to be open before September.
Cyrus wrote: » which insurance are you referring to specifically. im not sure if you have ever had kids in creche, they pick up all manner of horrible doses. i cant ever recall considering suing over it. you know what will lead to creche owners going out of business? staying shut. again barring a vaccine, whats your solution as it appears to be to keep them shut?
Theboinkmaster wrote: » how would it impact their insurance? Kids already get very sick from crèche viruses, are hospitalised etc.
KrustyUCC wrote: » So if restrictions get lifted and people get sick, would you not be treating them? sure it's your own fault and "this is what you asked for"
easypazz wrote: » It would be a short term measure, until the situation improves. People have adapted a lot and will adapt to this too. And don't forget financial incentives from the government, maybe 9% VAT etc. so they won't need to be as busy as normal.
Theboinkmaster wrote: » There's a huge difference between WFH with kids in school v kids in crèche. The crèche ones don't allow much actual working
Theboinkmaster wrote: » I've 2 in crèche and I'm not concerned.
KiKi III wrote: » For most pubs, your suggestions are not viable. They would have 90% of their costs and only a fraction of their customers:
Cupatae wrote: » No your posts are a mixed bag of nonsense, one min ur complaining you cant go outside safely the next you want all restrictions lifted... and on and on... all over the place but yet its everyone else's fault they cant "Understand" or "Use Logic"...
Ace2007 wrote: » Ok but your issues with those outside of your house, i.e. it been crowed, will only get worse as restrictions are lifted.... We are also not on a lockdown as you like to keep saying
Augeo wrote: » I'll take your word on that Currently they are all at home though and I reckon that won't change in May or June.
Ace2007 wrote: » Maybe you haven't sued over it - but there are claims against creche regularly - just like their are claims against pretty much any company that has liability insurance. They have the insurance for that reason. Only last year, the government wanted it to be mandatory for creche to insist all kids have the standard vaccines before being guaranteed a place, like you said kids can pick up anything in a creche.
KrustyUCC wrote: » Binge drinking is and Irish and English thing? A binge is 3 pints or 6 standard units in one sitting That happens in every country and in European bars you speak of
Ace2007 wrote: » Your not concerned that they could pick up the virus at all?, or you happy to take that risk? Would you send them to the creche this Monday coming if they opened?
Theboinkmaster wrote: » Honestly? Yes I would send both kids back into crèche on Monday if they opened. We will be living with COVID-19 for next 12-18 months so there's always going to be a risk my kids get it from crèche, or pick up and pass to others. But I wouldn't be up at night stressing about it. They've picked up far worse from crèche TBH. They are literally in the lowest risk category of our population (aged 2 and 4).
Professor Moriarty wrote: » What have they picked up in a creche that is worse than Covid-19?
lainey_d_123 wrote: » No, you just can't separate issues at all because you only think in black and white. Me saying lockdown can't continue indefinitely means 'all restrictions should be lifted' in your little brain, even though I've explicitly said otherwise, over and over and over again. In fact, just again, a few minutes ago, I said what I think should happen, and it definitely wasn't anything remotely like 'all restrictions should be lifted right now'. But it doesn't matter what I say because you keep coming back with this, like a broken record. Me not feeling safe outside because I'm higher risk has fcuk all to do with whether restrictions should be lifted eventually. It might well transpire that I have to stay home longer while everyone else goes back to their lives, or go out and maybe get sick and die...in which case, that's just the way it is, isn't it? Unlike you, I can separate my needs and wants from the best interests of society as a whole. Weird you called me selfish when 99% of people on here just want what's best for them personally. Why are you acting like I just made this up? The government literally talk about us being in lockdown every single day in the press briefing. You are utterly deluded if you think only being able to go outside once a day for exercise and roughly once a week for food isn't a lockdown. Just because they're not enforcing it strictly doesn't mean most people aren't doing it. We're not free to do what we want, are we?
Theboinkmaster wrote: » Definitely May, not sure about June - government will want those workers back working ASAP. Head of nurse union was on Newstalk earlier this week and biggest problem for health workers in getting to work is not PPE but childcare. PPE is no2 issue. June for a lot of kids would be summer hols anyway so those parents might have plans in place for those kids already.
Theboinkmaster wrote: » You've obviously never had kids in crèche :rolleyes: I've had both kids hospitalised (just 1 day thankfully) from stuff they've picked up in crèche. COVID-19 is no more dangerous than what they usually get, probably less dangerous actually. Insurance issues with COVID-19 is no different in crèche from any business globally.
Theboinkmaster wrote: » Vomiting bug that lasted 10 days - half the class were hospitalised (1 year olds). Virus with 41C temperatures. There's plenty of sickness that kids pick up in crèche that has them sick for 1-2 weeks - all more harmful than COVID-19.
