Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Pubs will not reopen before Nov/Dec at the earliest and quite possibly not until 2021.
easypazz wrote: » You are well wide of the mark. Once schools and colleges open, and shopping centres reopen, then there will be a lot of places where thousands of people are mingling most days of the week. There will be no point keeping pubs closed then.
skallywag wrote: » When secondary schools and colleges do open, I would imagine that it will still be with social distancing of some form being observed.I cannot see how any social distancing at all will be possible in a pub type environment though?
never_mind wrote: » God this thread is a toxic hybrid of journal.ie commentators and twitter-armchair-virologists... Simon Harris said he’s hopeful some restrictions will be lifted in May. This may have been discussed but what do you think? I would imagine the 2K thing will be 5K and B+Q and Argos and the likes will reopen. If things are going well I’d be hopeful that restaurants and cafes with good social distancing measures in place will open in june
alwald wrote: » Pubs and other similar places/venues, where social distancing is literally impossible, will have a negative effect on the basic reproductive number (R0) which stands below 1 thanks to all the efforts so far. I am going to be crucified by the "lift restrictions brigade" but pubs might not open again until a vaccine or cure is found.
skallywag wrote: » When secondary schools and colleges do open, I would imagine that it will still be with social distancing of some form being observed. I cannot see how any social distancing at all will be possible in a pub type environment though?
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Short of putting up screens to separate pub goers in each and every licensed premises in the country it can`t be.
khalessi wrote: » I am both. I spent over 20 years as a general nurse and am now a teacher for various reasons so it gives me a interesting perspective on certain things and I also have a couple of other qualifications that dont need mentioning here in completely different areas from those mentioned.
scamalert wrote: » well then same could be said for schools easily, do you think any kids will maintain any distancing outside classrooms ? that's mission impossible. Same with restaurants sure there could be less people but families would come together, people coming and going. Think fact is that once government wont be able to pay social extra benefits most restrictions will go, and it will be left for people to decide if they wanna go out drinking or be safe, theres no scenario where this keeps up for years to keep as little as possible people out, as come end of September flu seasons will kick off again, and given damp rainy weather can see clusters developing in no time, even if some will just be out with cold, will take one hysteric parent to call for total closures again, as imagine quite few after this will be conditioned to request time off every time someone feels they have a cold. So in reality opening everything for summer would yeald better outlook- just to get on with this, then have a generation who will be PTSD about virus for years to come.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » mother of dragons, breaker of chains:p
alwald wrote: » Hold on a second, you can't go out during the lockdown because of dozens of people and yet you want restrictions to be lifted to go out? In addition, you observed that people aren't respecting the coughing etiquette so what makes you think that this will change with the lifting of restrictions? I am not having a go at you I genuinely don't see any logic whatsoever.
KiKi III wrote: » Some people, on hearing pubs will remain closed for a while, will use less strict lockdown restrictions to have picnics and barbecues and carefully planned summer parties that allow them to have a social life whilst being sensible. Others will spend weeks on here moaning. I know which category I’d rather be in.
alwald wrote: » Pubs are different unless they become like restaurants with mandatory seating and distancing.
Cupatae wrote: » Im afraid its you that is embarrassing yourself, and its you that hasn't got the common sense to release yourself from ur self imposed bunker. You cant go out for a walk, cause the place you wanna go walking is too far of a walk :D For the record ive lived in New York, Paris and Vancouver. You are talking nonsense.
easypazz wrote: » And that is how I expect pubs to reopen. No standing, congregating at the counter, or live music. No functions birthday parties etc. People sit with their own group and some tables and chairs removed. Encourage people to visit off peak. Reduce capacity to 50% of normal.
lord quackinton wrote: » The leaving cert must be done in July and all schools and universities open September as usual And if the teachers don’t agree then sack those who won’t return and hire a plane load of Bulgarians if necessary Joking but also not joking Time to open up
KiKi III wrote: » A pub with no socialising, in other words. Sounds like fun.
khalessi wrote: » Open up and release over 1 million children in primary and secondary back mixing. How do you propose to do this safely?
castletownman wrote: » I can think of a lot of pubs in my locality, some that I frequent myself that have the capacity to adjust. Others less so. However, I can't think of any cafe shop in my area, in what is a popular business, that would be able to operate with social distancing regulations. They are surely as big an issue as the pubs, particularly as a lot of older people use them as a social setting. You cannot possibly deny people their coffee though.
quokula wrote: » Vaccines and cures aren't the only games in town. A lot of work is being done worldwide on better contact tracing (e.g. the joint work Apple and Google are doing on phone tracking), better understanding of how the virus spreads, and better information and processes can do a lot to keep the R0 low. Asian countries who have more infrastructure and processes in place from the previous SARS outbreak and have things like plastic sheets between staff and customers, temperature checks on entrance to premises, hand washing stations, RFID and QR code scanners to track your precise position before being allowed entry, defined well separated seating areas etc. It takes time to get all that in place and pubs aren't going to be thronged on a Saturday night, but you can get things up and running in a semi-normal state. Especially as we should have the base level of infection under control by then.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » You don't appear to be able to read or use logic, so I'm not sure why I'm even bothering. I said it's not safe to go outside because it's overcrowded, and your response is that I should go on a two hour walk to a nice big park....through those very same streets that are crowded. The biggest risk is within 1km of my flat, so who gives a flying fcuk if there's a beautiful park somewhere else in the city, if I have no way to get there, since I can't teleport? It might as well be in fcking San Francisco. Engage your brain before you post ffs.
