Relaxation of restrictions

easypazz wrote: »

Point is I can't get a pint at home, which I was told I can.

Based on your posts here, laying off the pints might not be the worst decision you ever made.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

https://thebarcompany.ie/shop/kegs/heineken-50-ltr-keg/

From where will they be getting the kegs?

Gael23

If the numbers keep falling people won’t take more after May 5th

fleet_admiral

growleaves wrote: »

Coronavirus lockdown could be worst hit to UK economy since 18th century

All those Charles Dickens novels with gangs of orphans were set during the recession after the Napoleonic wars at the beginning of the 19th century. Apparently this contraction could be worse than that. Lets hope we 'bounce back'.

Didn't know 'we' were part of the uk

https://thebarcompany.ie/shop/kegs/heineken-50-ltr-keg/

KiKi III wrote: »

Unopened kegs have a shelf life of 2-3 months. By which time production lines will almost definitely have reopened.

So what’s your point?

Point is I can't get a pint at home, which I was told I can.

Ulysses Gaze

easypazz wrote: »

You actually can't.

easypazz wrote: »

It hasn't proved me wrong, I can't get a pint of draught at home.

Regarding my local bars, where are they going to get the beer now that Guinness have stopped producing and delivering kegs?

Same goes for that pub in Dublin BTW.

And anybody offering a keg at home service.

They won't be able to get kegs, and whatever Guinness they have left is approaching out of date.

Unopened kegs have a shelf life of 2-3 months. By which time production lines will almost definitely have reopened.

So what’s your point?

Ace2007 wrote: »

Doesn't matter - one it prove you were wrong and two doesn't stop your local from doing it if they wanted to - and if locals wanted to keep customer to a local business...

It hasn't proved me wrong, I can't get a pint of draught at home.

Regarding my local bars, where are they going to get the beer now that Guinness have stopped producing and delivering kegs?

Same goes for that pub in Dublin BTW.

And anybody offering a keg at home service.

They won't be able to get kegs, and whatever Guinness they have left is approaching out of date.

stephenjmcd

Switzerlands plans to relax restrictions
From April 27, 2020 , hospitals can again perform all procedures, including non-urgent ones. Outpatient medical practices such as dentists or physiotherapists as well as hairdressing, massage and cosmetic studios are allowed to resume operations. Hardware stores, garden centers, flower shops and garden centers can open again.
From April 27, the range restrictions in grocery stores will also be lifted. If everyday goods and other goods are on the sales area of the grocery store, they may be sold.
On May 11, 2020 , the compulsory schools and shops will reopen - if the situation permits. The Federal Council wants to make the decision on April 29.
From June 8, 2020 , secondary schools, vocational schools and universities as well as museums, zoos and libraries should reopen. The Federal Council will decide on the details of this stage on May 27.
The Federal Council has not yet passed any decisions on further stages. At which of his next meetings will he decide when major events will be possible again.

alwald

Airborne transmission is "plausible" according to some studies suggesting that C-19 could remain airborne for "up to 3 hours". I remember reading an article about a month ago from Chinese scientists that made this suggestion too when looking into patients and the source of their infection.

suicide_circus

The notion that you can hit the pause button on an economy is utterly absurd.

easypazz wrote: »

That's great if you live near there.

No use to most people though.

Doesn't matter - one it prove you were wrong and two doesn't stop your local from doing it if they wanted to - and if locals wanted to keep customer to a local business...

growleaves

Coronavirus lockdown could be worst hit to UK economy since 18th century

All those Charles Dickens novels with gangs of orphans were set during the recession after the Napoleonic wars at the beginning of the 19th century. Apparently this contraction could be worse than that. Lets hope we 'bounce back'.

Ace2007 wrote: »

Graingers Hanlons Corner Dublin

That's great if you live near there.

No use to most people though.

endabob1

easypazz wrote: »

You can't get a pint of draught beer at home..

There are ways

https://www.beerhawk.co.uk/perfect-draft-range/perfect-draft-bundles

eleventh

Wibbs wrote:

But according to research by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it’s not just the person next to us we should worry about: coughing spreads droplets as far as six metres, and sneezing as much as eight metres. These droplets stay suspended in the air for up to 10 minutes.

If this research was on covid19, can you post a link to it please.

Cupatae wrote: »

You're selling wolf tickets with the whole airborne thing, its simply misinformation, its simply not truly "airborne" .

You’re both right.

Or both wrong, depending on how you want to look at it https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses

Cupatae

Wibbs wrote: »

Its mad how two metres means "safe" to so many, because that's the number spread about. Have an oul read of this for the craic.

Given the number of infections that can travel through the air, it’s horrible when someone coughs over us.

But according to research by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it’s not just the person next to us we should worry about: coughing spreads droplets as far as six metres, and sneezing as much as eight metres. These droplets stay suspended in the air for up to 10 minutes.

Then again some seem to also believe that so long as they're not in close contact for longer than 15 minutes they're grand. Clear as a bell at 14 minutes, creeping coughing death at 16.

I wrote It's in "the air" already FFS. It's an aerosolised virus. That's on the money I'm afraid.

As for distancing see above. It's a risk reducer and the cost/benefit seems to be around two metres. Three would reduce risk further, but then you're into the practicalities of that. But it is a risk reducer, just like proper handwashing and yep just like masks and even recovered now immune people. The more risk reducers in the community, the lower the transmission rate, the fewer end up needing hospital, the fewer end up dying and the sooner we can get back to some semblance of normality.

You're selling wolf tickets with the whole airborne thing, its simply misinformation, its simply not truly "airborne" .

polesheep wrote: »

This is becoming ridiculous. Can you not see that what is safe for most is not safe for all, therefore, some will have to be more cautious. We cannot all continue life at the most cautious level.

ok if that's what you think...

easypazz wrote: »

You actually can't.

You were all “this isn’t about going to the beach” yesterday, but today you’re upset because you can’t have a beer poured the specific way you’d like it?

You can have cans and bottles in an almost unlimited variety, but you can’t have draft... oh the sacrifices you are making.

easypazz wrote: »

What pub is that please?

Graingers Hanlons Corner Dublin

Wibbs

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

The virus is spread through droplets it's not spread through the air. Thats why we can walk within 2 meters of eachother. So I'd save your indignation for yourself.

Its mad how two metres means "safe" to so many, because that's the number spread about. Have an oul read of this for the craic.

Given the number of infections that can travel through the air, it’s horrible when someone coughs over us.

But according to research by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it’s not just the person next to us we should worry about: coughing spreads droplets as far as six metres, and sneezing as much as eight metres. These droplets stay suspended in the air for up to 10 minutes.

Then again some seem to also believe that so long as they're not in close contact for longer than 15 minutes they're grand. Clear as a bell at 14 minutes, creeping coughing death at 16.

Cupatae wrote: »

Ehh... for someone so smug about there opinion and condescending to others... your own information isn't exactly "on the money"

I wrote It's in "the air" already FFS. It's an aerosolised virus. That's on the money I'm afraid. Please feel free to point out my inaccuracy.

As for distancing see above. It's a risk reducer and the cost/benefit seems to be around two metres. Three would reduce risk further, but then you're into the practicalities of that. But it is a risk reducer, just like proper handwashing and yep just like masks and even recovered now immune people. The more risk reducers in the community, the lower the transmission rate, the fewer end up needing hospital, the fewer end up dying and the sooner we can get back to some semblance of normality.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

You can buy a keg online, have it delivered to your house and have many pints of draught beer at home.

You actually can't.

polesheep

Ace2007 wrote: »

The difference between us is that you come across as society should continue as normal and if a vulnerable person wants to socialize they do so at their own risks.

I'm suggesting that society changes they way they behave and allow everyone the opportunity to socialize in a safe manner - be it social distancing etc.

This is becoming ridiculous. Can you not see that what is safe for most is not safe for all, therefore, some will have to be more cautious. We cannot all continue life at the most cautious level.

Ace2007 wrote: »

You can't? There is at least one pub in Dublin doing delivery service of pints and has been delivery thousands of pints in last few weeks. Nothing stopping other pubs around the country offering the same service...

What pub is that please?

Ulysses Gaze

easypazz wrote: »

You can't get a pint of draught beer at home.

But I expect nothing more from you at this stage other than strawman retorts.

We get your mantra, we all lockdown as its not fair on the old and vulnerable.

You can buy a keg online, have it delivered to your house and have many pints of draught beer at home.

easypazz wrote: »

You can't get a pint of draught beer at home.

But I expect nothing more from you at this stage other than strawman retorts.

We get your mantra, we all lockdown as its not fair on the old and vulnerable.

You can't? There is at least one pub in Dublin doing delivery service of pints and has been delivery thousands of pints in last few weeks. Nothing stopping other pubs around the country offering the same service...

CtevenSrowder

Ace2007 wrote: »

There is a big difference telling people to be cautious, and telling them to isolate - back tracking there a bit - from first paragraph to your second....

No there isn't. You can tell people to isolate. Whether they do or not is up to them.