stephenjmcd wrote: » Yeah that case won't do anything, shes a head banger as it is. Theres a thread on it.
stephenjmcd wrote: » Same as myself, it's the going to football matches or GAA matches that I'm missing the most.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » 2. To realise this thing isn't going to be solved in weeks or months and that payments like rent and mortgages need to either be stopped or government needs to pay them or the least preferred option is to let all those businesses go bust.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » ............considering the health service at all and pretending it isn't an important factor?
lainey_d_123 wrote: » ................ Good, tbh. As an OCD sufferer, one silver lining in all this is that it might stop people being so goddamn disgusting. I've spent years sanitising my hands after interacting with people doing vile things like licking their fingers before reaching for a bag to put my food in, offering me their gross sweaty palm to shake hands or sneezing into their hand and then touching shared keyboards and equipment. The average person is absolutely disgusting with little knowledge of hygiene and I'd be delighted to see that change. If I never had to shake another hand again it wouldn't be a moment too soon. .................
growleaves wrote: » No idea. They could order less supplies, pay less bar staff etc. Cut overheads in general. Some of these pubs have to pay rent either way. Are we supposed to accept that a reconstructed business model is impractical, can't possibly work - yet a years-long freeze of business and mass segregation is so obviously practical that its foolish to even think otherwise? That's what I'm getting from your posts. The development of a vaccine isn't even guaranteed so maybe some outside-the-box thinking is called for?
brutes1 wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0415/1130727-covid-19-restrictions-challenged-in-high-court/ Challenge to restrictions Several articles in main press last few days looking for relaxing of same
Augeo wrote: » They will have to, In Ireland as soon as they ICU are heading towards a % of full capacity we'll be back to current lockdown again. They hope that once the transmission rate falls to under 1 that social distancing etc will keep the situation controlled. As you say and as I said yesterday, there'll be no pubs open for ages, unless they are all seated food style restaurant pubs.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Could pubs even cover costs if everyone has to stay 2m apart? Would they be able to fit enough people in and sell enough drink? Plus now they all have to pay door staff to monitor the numbers let people in. How much of their weekly profit do pubs make from having people 2m apart and how much do they make on Friday and Saturday night when it's packed? Please, people. Think logically about this.
pgj2015 wrote: » i can chat away on the phone for hours with friends but seeing them on zoom i just wouldnt be into. my social life now? i just text and call, dont see any friends at the moment. im used to that anyway, it doesnt bother me, i can go a few months without seeing my friends and am ok with that. am missing going to soccer matches, gigs though.
pgj2015 wrote: » i can chat away on the phone for hours with friends but seeing them on zoom i just wouldnt be into. my social life now? i just text and call, dont see any friends at the moment. im used to that anyway, it doesnt bother me, i can go a few months without seeing my friends and am ok with that.am missing going to soccer matches, gigs though.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » OK. And do you think they will balance the level of transmissions to make sure the health service can cope, using tightening an loosening restrictions to keep transmissions to control transmission levels? That's really the crux of my point and the question I was asking.
Dickie10 wrote: » dont like to say told you so but ....... personal responsibility will come into play, people will be sick and die just hopefully not all at once. i was talking to five lads that were in cheltenham , they all believe they got it some had a fever for half a day and hard to breath other just felt a bit groggy , none went to hospital just took parecetomol and self isolated
niallo27 wrote: » I dont think people realise things have already changed, if the lockdown is relaxed to a degree people will still social distance, they will still be terrified of anyone that has a cough, no shaking hands or hugging. This idea that if restrictions are relaxed that we will all go back to our old habits just wont happen.
stephenjmcd wrote: » If everyone did clean the equipment after them, along with staff regularly cleaning i wouldn't have an issue with using the gym. I always wipe down the equipment after use but I've seen plenty who don't. Would imagine that'll change after this and if I saw someone not cleaning it after I'd say it to them 100%
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » It's not the same but it's much better than nothing. It was awkward the first time but now it's the norm. If you're useless on the phone, then it might not be much use to you. I don't see it as being reduced. Not seeing friends at all would be reduced. How's your social life during all this? How are you adapting?
Multipass wrote: » Cocoon for a couple of years? Not going to happen, may as well get the virus and die. Not all elderly people sit around and drink tea. They will not be imprisoned for years.
stephenjmcd wrote: » To answer your question in bold, I've listened to what the WHO have said in recent days and multiple governments world wide and the opinion most definitely seems to now be shifting towards things going back to a "normal" at some point before a vaccine. When i say normal that includes social distancing and everything that goes with it, I think people will be more aware of the people around them now, there's not going to be shaking hands, hugging etc that's the new norm. People aren't going to revert to their previous ways, I certainly wont. Here's a link to what Dr David Nabarro from the WHO said, https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1250005098299785223 , what he said during the interview also stands for social interaction that these can and must resume before a vaccine, we're at least 18 months away from a potential vaccine and it might not even work. I've already given my opinion on what i think will happen and that's following the WHO and EU guidelines on lifting restrictions, you may not like the guidelines or even follow them but that's what i think will happen in this country, whatever the guidelines say and based off the experience of other EU countries is what the gov here will do. And when the pubs do re-open will I go into one ? Yes I will, I'll go in have a meal & have a drink and support local businesses trying to get back on their feet. You don't have to go into them when they do re-open.
robinph wrote: » They are surely a safer environment than a pub or cafe where people are in close proximity chatting with each other and breathing in each others direction. In a gym everyone is there doing their own thing, everyone using some gym equipment is socially distanced by the fact that they are using the equipment. A bunch of people next to each other on a load of treadmills or bikes are all facing the same way and not breathing on each other. Maybe they need to move the equipment further apart or only use every other bike/ treadmill/ etc just to make people feel safer, but where is the risk otherwise if nobody is actually interacting with anyone else?
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » I think people haven't accepted the length of time this thing will take to resolve. Governments are stringing it along by a couple of weeks at a time but we're talking a time period along the line of years, not weeks or months. Sure the world can't stand still. We have to be proactive about getting herd Immunity by keeping transmission at the max level where the health service can cope with the acute cases. The higher the transmission level the quicker we get herd Immunity but it's important that the health service can cope. Meanwhile we work on an antibody test, and allow those who are immune, more freedom to go out and work. Then eventually we will reach herd Immunity through either a vaccine or through at least 2/3 of the population getting the disease. Then things can get back towards normal. Either case will probably take a couple of years and the vulnerable will need to cocoon for the duration.
pgj2015 wrote: » zoom sounds very lame. i will never do that. getting drunk with friends who arent even in the same room? come on what have ye being reduced to?
Irish_peppa wrote: » Where do Gyms stand in all this, jesus I dont think I would trust people properly wiping down equipment after use. Can you realistically open gyms during this covid pandemic
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