Pitch n Putt wrote: » We can’t exist like this living in fear for the foreseeable future.
Deleted User wrote: » A rather blunt analysis, short of sentiment. My parents are both over 65 and have much to live for. Would you willingly sacrifice yourself if the situation demanded it? You're capable of better than this.
KiKi III wrote: » A lot of people on this thread might benefit from the 12 Step philosophy of taking a day at a time. What will the situation be in six months or a year? None of us know. Playing out worst-case scenarios or even overly optimistic best-case scenarios can play havoc with people's mental health. Try focusing mainly on today: What can you do to get through today and make it more bearable - organise a phone call with someone who always cheers you up, cook yourself something nice, get out in this beautiful weather for a walk if you can etc.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Very few would deny this is the case. Unfortunately the virus doesn`t give a **** about any of that.
SusanC10 wrote: » Apologies as I have only been dipping in and out of anything to do with this Virus as I find that a lot of the time I am struggling but realistically how long are we looking at for a Vaccine to be widely available so that I can see my elderly Mum again ?
KiKi III wrote: » 80% of the workforce is still gainfully employed thankfully through all this, either because they are considered essential or because they can work from home. Of the 20% who have unfortunately lost jobs, many will indeed thankfully be back in their jobs, maybe not by middle of May, but perhaps by middle of June. That's not to say there won't be more job losses, or permanent job losses. There will. That would be the case either way because we have an export driven economy and the whole world is about to go into recession. I'm grateful for the indications that our government and governments around us don't plan to return to austerity and will instead spend their way out of this one. There will be a massive stimulus (half a trillion deal agreed by the EU last week).
GT89 wrote: » Having to stay in your home or stay within 2km of your house is not living it's surviving. Things like going to work, school, football matches, concerts, pubs, restaurants and on holidays are all an important part of life is a Western developed nation. Who wants to live under quarantine it's not being greedy.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » 100% this. There are some people on this thread who seem to think we should all collectively suffer for months on end so that those who need to isolate don't feel 'left out' or something. Completely disregarding not only what that would do to the economy but also everyone else's lives. If I were 85 and in ill health, I certainly wouldn't want or expect to be anyone's priority. That's not meant in a callous way, but some people need to understand there are no winners here. The way it's going, the young are going to be sacrificed for the old. People who are elderly have lived their lives already. They've had their weddings and their careers and raised their kids, and now all that is being taken away from young people. There's a generation of teenagers having their education ruined, enormous stress put on families which will lead to family breakdown and even violence, weddings being cancelled, long distance relationships breaking up, surgery cancelled, people with poor mental health suffering enormously. And we're facing another recession, barely a decade after the last one started. At 34, I'm only just about getting on my feet now, after years of under employment and poverty which hit at the same time as a chronic illness. Still not well off by any stretch, but making an OK salary with prospects and had started slowly saving for a flat deposit and other normal 'adult' stuff I just couldn't do before. It might have just about been possible to buy a modest flat in my late thirties and maybe even consider a family. Now where are we going to be? And there are many people even worse off, who are going to be truly destitute. And people still insist on saying this is all about pubs and beaches.
easypazz wrote: » What about people who can't afford phone credit, or can't afford to buy nice things to cook, or can't afford gas for the cooker because they have no money due to being forced out of work. You seem to think its all a bed of roses out there for people.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » All your posts just smack of ME ME ME ME ME ME ME. You're being asked to stay inside for a little while longer, we will all lose out a bit here, but the lockdown is saving lives. Things will go back to normal. A 67 year old man that lives on my street died from covid the other day, this isn't just a problem for 85 year olds.
easypazz wrote: » It also costs lives. Some people keep ignoring this bit.
BanditLuke wrote: » It is more important to the obvious Gordon Gekko's in training here. Thankfully we have people in charge who think differently.
o1s1n wrote: » You'd swear we were all on the brink of running out of food the way you're going on. Pubic services are still running. Food is in plentiful supply. Bins are being collected. The internet is still working. Stick on some Netflix and order a pizza, and chill the **** out.
easypazz wrote: » What if you can't afford Netflix, or to pay for the bin, or are struggling to pay for food because you have been forced out of work?
Thelonious Monk wrote: » You're being asked to stay inside for a little while longer, we will all lose out a bit here, but the lockdown is saving lives. Things will go back to normal
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » That only works short term. At some point people need more human contact. How long are you proposing the lockdown lasts - or what do you think needs to happen - before ANY restrictions are eased? Because there seems to be a bit of confusion on that point.
KiKi III wrote: » I've talked at length about my own mental health issues and the fact that as a self-employed person I've lost a good portion of my business to Covid 19. So no, I don't think it's a bed of roses for anyone. What I have said repeatedly is that for most people it's doable. And I stand by that.
KiKi III wrote: » I'm proposing, as I have all along, that we follow the guidance of the public health experts. I'm very hopeful that some of the restrictions will be lifted on May 5.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » So is everyone - that's kind of dodging the question, to be honest.
easypazz wrote: » And for a lot of people they won't be able for it, and so they are being let die because another section of society can be saved. We need to live with this, accept that it will kill people, the same as cancer and heart attacks kill people.
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