hmmm wrote: » We won't need the army to enforce a lockdown, the public will do it themselves. Most people don't want to catch the virus, and they don't want to pass it to others. People won't be going back to pubs anytime soon, even if the owners force them to open. We might see minor disobedience, but in general the Government and Public health doctors have been very smart by largely governing through consent. They have quite shrewdly waited for public opinion to shift, and then moved with it, rather than trying to enforce something the public doesn't want or feel is needed. Pressures will build to open certain activities e.g. construction sites, outdoor sports, beaches etc. and perhaps they can be the release valve.
bladespin wrote: » Who are the actual 'experts'? The researchers actually working on the virus itself?
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Informed, ok. I'll stick to the actual experts rather than the 'informed'.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Indeed. Makes you informed though.
seamus wrote: » If even 10% of those decided to completely ignore the lockdown, the Gardai would be overwhelmed and any semblance of enforcement would collapse. Then the other 90% would say, "why am I ****ing bothering" and the lockdown would be over.
Idbatterim wrote: » So she staged the video ? I can imagine traditional media not wanting to share it fir sure, might give people ideas ... varadkar has probably told rte what they can and cant report ....
Blueshoe wrote: » He wouldn't be doing the research though. He has no PhD in biology or what not. He is intelligent no doubt and has the cash but he won't be discovering anything
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » That's not what makes you an expert on something.
Paddygreen wrote: » People have been shot in the Philippines by police for ignoring lockdown. Chinese police house arrested anti-social individuals and padlocked them into their homes. Indian police beat the anti-social with four foot long sticks then make them jump up and down on the spot.Time to get real here and crack down. I'd say a good dose of a tazer and they would think twice about ignoring advise again.
seamus wrote: » Yeah, good luck with that. There are 1m people in Dublin. If even 10% of those decided to completely ignore the lockdown, the Gardai would be overwhelmed and any semblance of enforcement would collapse. Then the other 90% would say, "why am I ****ing bothering" and the lockdown would be over. We are in lockdown by public consent.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » He put 279 million into the Institute for Health Metrics which employs hundreds of health data analysts and researchers whose sole focus is health trends and disease control. I'm pretty sure they send him info on what's happening.
Idbatterim wrote: » I speak German, it is a protest over the restrictions. They have way less time and tolerance for bull**** over there. Its berlin , their freedom was robbed before dont forget.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » They're probably the most rule following by the bookish nation on Earth tbf. People shout at you if you cross when the ampfelmann is red ffs.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Bill Gates is an expert virologist now?!
Paddygreen wrote: » Bill Gates recommended at least 10 more weeks of lockdown two weeks ago. We should listen to the experts. Thackeray means at least eight more are required, and probably a lot more than that.
pgj2015 wrote: » no, I heard in whatsapp that they Irish army will open fire on such protesters with mini guns.
is_that_so wrote: » Not until the restrictions are lifted. Some of them may be "open" online.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Your reply would be the same if it said "Irish go home" i'm sure. :rolleyes:
Cupatae wrote: » Why not?
riffmongous wrote: » Why is a guy wearing an americans go home shirt? 1.04
Idbatterim wrote: » Large groups forming in public in berlin to protest at the government lockdown. I am meant to listen to the shower of idiots here and talk of massively lengthy lockdown from the idiots that brought us the black and tan farce, dail printer scandal, you know it all, I'm on a smart phone don't have an hour for compile the list!https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1249798140305252352?s=20 I have zero respect for those weasel morons , they have the authority of a boy scout!
Tell me how wrote: » You could argue that in todays world, no one really does anything if to qualify for having done so they must have done every single thing from start to finish. Bill is obviously very intelligent, he has also spent a lot of time in funding and being involved in the conversation around infectious diseases. He is definitely capable of contributing to the conversation.
seamus wrote: » The Irish armed forces won't violently suppress the Irish people and they definitely won't open fire on them. We don't have the kind of blindly nationalistic armed forces that the US, UK and China do. Also, think about how stupid it sounds to suggest using force when the purpose of a lockdown is to save lives.
Blueshoe wrote: » He didn't do the research in a lab under his house. Up all night injecting monkeys and taking notes. . He funds the research. Without the money the cures would not have been found. Very important but he didn't discover anything
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