Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Bill Gates is an expert virologist now?!
Idbatterim wrote: » I speak German, it is a protest over the restrictions. They have way less time and tolerance for bull**** over there. Its berlin , their freedom was robbed before dont forget.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » They're probably the most rule following by the bookish nation on Earth tbf. People shout at you if you cross when the ampfelmann is red ffs.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » He put 279 million into the Institute for Health Metrics which employs hundreds of health data analysts and researchers whose sole focus is health trends and disease control. I'm pretty sure they send him info on what's happening.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » That's not what makes you an expert on something.
seamus wrote: » Yeah, good luck with that. There are 1m people in Dublin. If even 10% of those decided to completely ignore the lockdown, the Gardai would be overwhelmed and any semblance of enforcement would collapse. Then the other 90% would say, "why am I ****ing bothering" and the lockdown would be over. We are in lockdown by public consent.
Paddygreen wrote: » People have been shot in the Philippines by police for ignoring lockdown. Chinese police house arrested anti-social individuals and padlocked them into their homes. Indian police beat the anti-social with four foot long sticks then make them jump up and down on the spot.Time to get real here and crack down. I'd say a good dose of a tazer and they would think twice about ignoring advise again.
Blueshoe wrote: » He wouldn't be doing the research though. He has no PhD in biology or what not. He is intelligent no doubt and has the cash but he won't be discovering anything
Idbatterim wrote: » So she staged the video ? I can imagine traditional media not wanting to share it fir sure, might give people ideas ... varadkar has probably told rte what they can and cant report ....
seamus wrote: » If even 10% of those decided to completely ignore the lockdown, the Gardai would be overwhelmed and any semblance of enforcement would collapse. Then the other 90% would say, "why am I ****ing bothering" and the lockdown would be over.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Indeed. Makes you informed though.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Informed, ok. I'll stick to the actual experts rather than the 'informed'.
bladespin wrote: » Who are the actual 'experts'? The researchers actually working on the virus itself?
hmmm wrote: » We won't need the army to enforce a lockdown, the public will do it themselves. Most people don't want to catch the virus, and they don't want to pass it to others. People won't be going back to pubs anytime soon, even if the owners force them to open. We might see minor disobedience, but in general the Government and Public health doctors have been very smart by largely governing through consent. They have quite shrewdly waited for public opinion to shift, and then moved with it, rather than trying to enforce something the public doesn't want or feel is needed. Pressures will build to open certain activities e.g. construction sites, outdoor sports, beaches etc. and perhaps they can be the release valve.
bladespin wrote: » He who pays gets the credit, it's in the terms and conditions An expert is just someone who knows more about something than the next joe soap, doesn't mean they know it all or that their opinions are even right, all you need to do is look at the history of scientific discovery every discovery there was an expert who said yes and another who said no.
Idbatterim wrote: » That last paragraph, that is all most of us want or expect in the short term. If they think we will will remain locked up unnecessarily, by varadkar, Harris a few quivering boy scounts and some unelected civil servants etc, lol! What would they do if a hundred thousand in Dublin decide enough is enough and started marching towards gpo etc?
citysights wrote: » It’s kind of a new term though in the way it’s now being used like online courses different levels up to expert user. Maybe professional is being replaced by the term expert. A professional will have qualifications and an expert may but not necessarily. We used to hear about ‘experts in the field of science, medicine etc’ Those would have both the qualifications as well as substantial experience under their belt. But as you say experts don’t know everything and can disagree amongst each other.
Blueshoe wrote: » If you were sick and required hospital treatment would you prefer to be seen by the guy who went to medical school and passed his exams or the guy who paid for the hospital to be built
Idbatterim wrote: » 45% of deaths are in nursing homes!
Tell me how wrote: » You could argue that in todays world, no one really does anything if to qualify for having done so they must have done every single thing from start to finish. Bill is obviously very intelligent, he has also spent a lot of time in funding and being involved in the conversation around infectious diseases. He is definitely capable of contributing to the conversation.
citysights wrote: » Rhetorical question.