normanoffside wrote: » Posted on another thread but of some interest here I assume: Here’s another interesting one in the State by State breakdown of American statistics.https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/01/tracking-coronavirus-u-s-data/ If you go the stats on US military (listed as it’s own State) it has 15 deaths from over 4500 cases, a death rate of 0.33% Not sure if the military get tested more than other sections of society, I would assume so?
Cupatae wrote: » how did you get from 70k the original post, to 13 million? Some math gymnastics there.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » I would assume they are fit healthy young and exercise etc.
niallo27 wrote: » Ok sorry let's say 60% of the UK's population get it, about 40 million, 21% death rate would mean over 8 million dead.
normanoffside wrote: » Most of the deaths are civilian, dependant and contractors (I assume a lot more of these are older/retired?)
alwald wrote: » Why should we take a figure from the US military, with a total of 4500 cases, and expect those figures to be the same across the world instead of looking at worldwide figures? This is a serious question as this virus for some people is a question of life/death.
ShineOn7 wrote: » What an omnishambles this thread has turned into Time to unfollow for at least tonight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1rRszEYKdM
normanoffside wrote: » Death rate is 0.37% going by extensive studies in Germany and Iceland (and even in those studies there is bias towards a tendency to test the sick). I’m not even sure where you got 21% from. In our case the infection/death rate is 4% and that is going off a system where only vulnerable and health workers are being tested. If we had the capacity to test all people with mild symptoms our death rate would be much lower and that’s before you even factor in the 50+% of asymptomatic carriers.
normanoffside wrote: » Because Perhaps not everyone (or even close to it) in the world is getting tested in order to get accurate figures. Whereas maybe in the military a lot more at getting tested. That’s why studies were large portions of a small population being tested for scientific purposes are important. Would you concede that in countries where tests are only carried out on patients who present to hospital in a very unwell condition, then by definition their death rates are not representative of true mortality rates?
alwald wrote: » A lot of perhaps and maybes for my liking.
Cupatae wrote: » Where do you draw the line then? people are asking for statistics and figures but keep moving the goal posts when they get em? you can only go by whats broadly known.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » The fact is we are not been told correct figures by the Govt. This has been proven
Cupatae wrote: » Its an ever evolving figure its never gonna be accurate. And if thats known why are people banging on about statistics and figures ? "CAN YOU PROVIDE STATISTICS WITH THAT ?! LAD" as soon as they get proven wrong.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » They kept the results of tests in Germany until they were called on it
normanoffside wrote: » So you think everyone is getting tested and every case is being reported then?
STB. wrote: » No. I've already responded to this a few posts before yours. You are not "cured". Viral shedding can go on for up to 37 days. "Cured" "Recovered" are misnomers. The true measure is when you get your infection rates down considerably.
alwald wrote: » To calculate the global percentage of deaths we need the total number of cases with an outcome and the total number of deaths. Total number of cases with an outcome is 560216 which is 100% in our maths and the total number of deaths is 118984 which is X%. So (118984*100)/560216=21%. The total number of active cases is out of the equation as their outcome is still unknown so 21% is the current death rate but is subject to change.
ILoveYourVibes wrote: » They are still not adding them to the daily total 23 hrs ago the daily total for the previous 24 hrs was 992 Today its reported as 500 and something. So they are hoping most people will only see that figure and not have heard of the Germany figures nor that a German lab is doing testing for us.
Heres Johnny wrote: » I think some mods and even the owners of boards.ie should consider temporarily locking some Covid19 threads late at night. There seems to be a lot of rambling and drunken posting going on late at night reporting some pretty dubious and possibly inaccurate facts and figures. Just something to consider lads, although it could be just an Easter weekend thing it seemed to get worse this weekend. A few times now it's 2 posters just forward and back at each other After hours this is not
MaureensFry wrote: » This goes on during the day too, 100 times worse than at night when there is more users. 1 minute work on a thread can clean it up
Charles Babbage wrote: » Only 0.37% only means 10.0000+ dead in the ROI. By way of comparison that's about the number to die in road accidents over the next 59 years. And of course if these deaths do not space themselves nicely the health service gets overrun and 5 times as many die.
alwald wrote: » Here is a correction to your facts, the death rate stands at 21% and not your 0.5%.
KiKi III wrote: » 3% death rate = 88,000
