Hyzepher wrote: » The fact of the matter is that if everyone actually followed the guidelines as they were set forward then this thing would be over sooner and those crying about surpression of civil liberties could shut up. But no, there are countless people around who don't seem to care if they get it or not - most likely asymptomatic and passing it on - who are prolonging these restriction longer for all of us. It's those who are crying about the restrictions and don't obey them are actually prolonging the very thing they want to end.
STB. wrote: » Yeah well your civil rights play second fiddle to public health however inconvenient. Police state, FFS. The very fact that they had to bring in these laws is because there are gobshítes who are too stupid or too selfish to follow the plan. The plan being not to spread the virus and overwhelm out limited health system to a stage where loads die, unnecessarily. You can talk all you want about your civil rights when we get this under control. The sooner we do that, the sooner people get back to work.
alwald wrote: » You are exiting as quickly as you entered with a failed attempt. Good night and hopefully you will have a better day tomorrow with your "facts" .
tdf7187 wrote: » Told by whom? The whole fake crisis is a textbook case of mass propaganda. Literally Orwellian. I'm kind of hoping the virus does cause billions of deaths as the human race has proven itself to be so easily manipulated into obsequious compliance with absurd and entirely disproportionate diktats, all propaganised for by so-called free media, that it doesnt deserve to survive.
tdf7187 wrote: » So I can't even talk about civil rights until some future as yet undetermined date? Interesting.
STB. wrote: » Is that what I waited for ? Good God. You probably haven't worked a day in your life.
normanoffside wrote: » Death rate is 0.37% going by extensive studies in Germany and Iceland (and even in those studies there is bias towards a tendency to test the sick). I’m not even sure where you got 21% from. In our case the infection/death rate is 4% and that is going off a system where only vulnerable and health workers are being tested. If we had the capacity to test all people with mild symptoms our death rate would be much lower and that’s before you even factor in the 50+% of asymptomatic carriers.
Blueshoe wrote: » I think I might be immune to the virus. The past week or 10 days i have forgotten my gloves and hand sanitizer numerous times when out and about shopping etc. I also smoke so my hands are on the cigarette and into the mouth.
alwald wrote: » So let me explain, the "rough" estimate for herd immunity to work is that at least 60% of the population must catch C-19 which is akin to a genocide/massacre due to the number of deaths worldwide.
alwald wrote: » Post 5932 from Downlinz clarifies the 21% so no need to duplicate/repeat multiple times.
Cupatae wrote: » The fact that you are still, in the most basic understandable form possible having to explain this hours later.. says it all really, its why there is a lockdown people cant even manage to do nothing properly... let alone follow complex guidelines of washing ur hands and stuff.. Lockdown till Vaccine i reckon the only way :pac:
alwald wrote: » Here is a correction to your facts, the death rate stands at 21% and not your 0.5%.
Jenbach110 wrote: » The post you refer to is by no means a factual clarification. It is at best a presumption
tdf7187 wrote: » I wonder if the difference is that countries like Germany and Iceland have good health services, and the propagandists for our very poor one are on here night and day demanding everyone obey orders and that we will all die soon. Some fat 100k a year HSE admin clerk will probably be ringing liveline demanding this thread be shut down, theres a few of us that are not going along with the scaremongering.
tdf7187 wrote: » indeed and a particularly pessimistic one. 70% infection rate and a 21% death rate implies around 70000 deaths in ROI. Does the other poster really expect that?
lalababa wrote: » Now the median number of a set of numbers is the middle one. But the median age is the highest age - the lowest, divided by 2 and added to the lowest. Which would indicate nearly all of the 33 were over 80. Which would indicate that there are a few/many nursing homes where it is making rack. But this isn't being reported. Why..f**k knows.
normanoffside wrote: » Death rate is 0.37% going by extensive studies in Germany and Iceland (and even in those studies there is bias towards a tendency to test the sick).
alwald wrote: » You were very good with maths earlier so I am sure you will figure it out...and I mean it!
Cupatae wrote: » If we didnt lock down, id say we wouldnt be far off it, Uk is at 11k as is.
Cupatae wrote: » Have you figured out how to lift the restrictions yet? or how to apply the Icelandic Method over here?:D
Jenbach110 wrote: » Id say we would be a long way off it
Jenbach110 wrote: » I think you will find my maths were correct and certain posters ended up with egg on face
alwald wrote: » I reckon the same, this lockdown is more necessary than we thought . Thankfully I have other things to look forward to tomorrow .
alwald wrote: » To calculate the global percentage of deaths we need the total number of cases with an outcome and the total number of deaths. Total number of cases with an outcome is 560216 which is 100% in our maths and the total number of deaths is 118984 which is X%. So (118984*100)/560216=21%. The total number of active cases is out of the equation as their outcome is still unknown so 21% is the current death rate but is subject to change.
Cupatae wrote: » If we didnt lock down? the Uk were slow doing it and look at the price they are paying already. Just shows how important the lock down is. They are already predicting 65k deaths by august.
niallo27 wrote: » The fact the two of you are acting like complete knobs is really not helping though.
niallo27 wrote: » So you think if uk didnt have a lockdown you would expect 13 million deaths. How quickly would you expect them to reach 1 million for example.
